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One of the common names for Association football. As you very well know.
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That word doesn't mean what you think it means
A migrant surge tests Spain's open policies
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Are they, or are they not, foreign-born people crossing a border to settle on the other side?
They were there for the fun of looting and harassing the Spanish at the direction of their government, not to actually settle. I might call them agitators, raiders or invaders, not migrants.
You believe these people to be Moroccans? Really?
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Stop sealioning, this is simply Morocco once again using its desperate young population as pawns in their underhanded "diplomacy". Those people had no way to stay in Ceuta or travel onwards in any way, so this was just a deadly flashmob performance. Of course the whole thing does double duty in arousing fascists and racists in Spain and the EU, for which the cui prodest list is quite ample.
Oh so you actually believe these people were Moroccans?
They're quite obviously Moroccan.
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Oh so you actually believe these people were Moroccans?
They're quite obviously Moroccan.
Obviously? Morocco is a well-known hub for migrants from all over Africa who try to reach Europe, but these ones are "quite obviously" Moroccan? What makes it this obvious then?
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They were there for the fun of looting and harassing the Spanish at the direction of their government, not to actually settle. I might call them agitators, raiders or invaders, not migrants.
You believe these people to be Moroccans? Really?
What conspiracy theory is this that you’re pushing that these were not Moroccans? You think there’s some other large group of people who live in Morocco and were just ready to run into Ceuta within a day of this Spanish ruling?
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#69This whole concept of you having to accommodate people illegally entering, or in this case, storming your border is so alien to me. Once a force of 60k men violently break into your country your duty is to start shooting, instead they had Spanish citizens have to bar their house doors and windows with couches and tremble in fear. Completely insane.
Europeans voted to have open borders. Open borders include having 60k men come into the market zone previously known as "Spain" freely.
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#70This whole concept of you having to accommodate people illegally entering, or in this case, storming your border is so alien to me. Once a force of 60k men violently break into your country your duty is to start shooting, instead they had Spanish citizens have to bar their house doors and windows with couches and tremble in fear. Completely insane.
We are not in the business of mass massacres. Maybe the US should come and study how to deport 60k people in 24h whithout having to shoot anyone.
> We are not in the business of mass massacres.
Those are unarmed but aggressive foreigners. There are way to stop them entering your country in mass in a few hours without committing a massacre.
Western Europe has no problem using crowd control methods against their own people when they are protesting for good reasons (remember the gilets jaunes?).
But states like Spain are totally incompetent and corrupt. They won't hurt a few foreigners literally invading their country for the optics and do not care their own citizen get hurt as consequence.