Robin Warren, pathologist who rewrote the science on ulcers, has died

Post by raincom » Fri, Aug 02, 2024, 8:31 PM UTC

cue_the_strings wrote: post #16

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Thats a bit of a myth though. Stress is still known to be a factor in causing ulcers. https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/cpd/2020/00000026...

I had gastritis (duodenitis, in fact) a couple of years back, and the first thing they did was test me for H. pylori. I didn't have it. Doctor told me a vast majority of people with such issues do. After a gastroscopy, they concluded that it was just stress and nothing else, but inflamation wouldn't heal on its own, so I got pantoprazole (PPI) and stopped ingesting potentially irritating food (caffeine, alcohol, spic…

Post by maxerickson » Fri, Aug 02, 2024, 8:56 PM UTC

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Of course, as lanosterol is how your body does it when things work ok on their own. The issue is delivery, and for unknown reason they are doing it without DMSO or anything similar. Lanosterol with its large molecular weight have no chances of making it inside on its own. The other way of course is injecting it directly into the eye, and it probably would have to be done many times, and, once injections stop, the cry…

the bigger problem is that if society collapses again there are few easily-accessible resources anymore, particularly fuel/energy. Consider the coincidence of factors that led to the industrial age in Britain… some of those can’t be reproduced again. Mining garbage dumps for resources could of course be a thing, but probably not abundant energy. This time there is no plan B. We either become an interplanetary species…

Post by hooverd » Fri, Aug 02, 2024, 9:09 PM UTC

cpncrunch wrote: post #10

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Can help to fix the: "this is caused by stress", when actually you needed antibiotics that already exists and were known at the time :|

Thats a bit of a myth though. Stress is still known to be a factor in causing ulcers. https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/cpd/2020/00000026...

Post by trhway » Fri, Aug 02, 2024, 9:31 PM UTC

paulmd wrote: post #62

trhway wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course, as lanosterol is how your body does it when things work ok on their own. The issue is delivery, and for unknown reason they are doing it without DMSO or anything similar. Lanosterol with its large molecular weight have no chances of making it inside on its own. The other way of course is injecting it directly into the eye, and it probably would have to be done many times, and, once injections stop, the cry…

the bigger problem is that if society collapses again there are few easily-accessible resources anymore, particularly fuel/energy. Consider the coincidence of factors that led to the industrial age in Britain… some of those can’t be reproduced again. Mining garbage dumps for resources could of course be a thing, but probably not abundant energy. This time there is no plan B. We either become an interplanetary species…

Post by manmal » Fri, Aug 02, 2024, 9:43 PM UTC

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I got an ulcer about ten years ago, well after Warren's research, I went to a doctor and he told me that the ulcer was caused by stress. I said something like "didn't someone get a Nobel prize proving that ulcers were bacterial?" and the doctor hadn't heard that and "prescribed" me to get more rest and try and be less concerned about work. I got a different doctor after that. Robin Warren is someone who I respected t…

The handful of times I've had ulcers in the past it was certainly correlated with stress. Perhaps indirectly through some other effects, but stress feels like part of the equation IME, at least for some people.