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ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Wait the I in IoT was internet....is that...artificial internet?

"Artificial Intelligence of Things" is also total gibberish.

Are you sure? "Artificial Intelligence of Things" is a pretty good description of autonomous robots or a fully self-contained home assistant puck.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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About a week ago we had an article about Intel leaving the NUC market. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36680674 It seems a bit slapdash to announce that ASUS is taking the brand forward a week later. Like if they were planning on doing this for a while, it would be an orderly transfer, right? So, what, did somebody at ASUS see that ServeTheHome article and decide to just go for it? Anyway, I really like NUCs, an…

Maybe it was a point in negotiation.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Sincere question: How are you even going to fit more than one 2.5" drive in a NUC? These things are tiny.

Cable(s) out to an external drive holder with an ATX -> Sata uplift from a DC psu. I run the radxa USB3->SATA bridge pi-Hat which is a jmicron chipset and with the vagueries of USB- attached drives, but SATA like speed through a serialising controller I do pretty well. I'd like to do astonishingly well. So the use case is "yea I can't fit it inside the NUC case but I can bridge it to a small box" -or run the NUC with…

What you’re describing is not a product, it’s a kludge. Even if you can stomach the poor reliability of an octopus of wires, a product designed to be used like that is likely to fail EMI testing.

I’ve certainly done this with SAS Harnesses coming out the side of my tower case, but you can’t expect a company to make a product with this use case in mind. There exists SFF NAS boxes with room for many drives for this purpose.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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It's hard to take ASUS seriously with a quote like: > this collaboration will enhance and accelerate our vision for the mini PC – greatly expanding our footprint in areas such as AI and AIoT It's just dripping in buzzword doublespeak. The NUCs seem like cool devices, do we really have to shoehorn "AI" and -- I had to re-read this -- "AIoT" into everything?

Yes. Failing to mention AI regarding any investment is basically MBA malpractice at this point. To err is human. To arr is pirate. To AI is lemming. At least it isn't yet AIoTaaS.

Now you've got me thinking of a hardware freemium model where you get some freebie IoT device on your home network, and its neural net convinces you to start paying its subscription fee (implemented with blockchain) once you're feeling done putting up with some limitation of the free version.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I use a Nuc clone to run Home Assistant, and AI event detection for my camera network (assisted by a Coral accelerator). So I think it legitimately qualifies for those buzzwords.

Except that almost nobody except random people on HN or certain reddit communities set up their own server for home assistant. Your personal interest and effort in this area really doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things -- I'm sure Asus and Intel marketing people weren't thinking about users like you when they wrote those words.

People have many other home appliances, no reason a local machine to provide local Cloud and home automation can’t happen.

This form factor is especially neat for the amount of power per watt one gets.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Dear ASUS: please make a range of NUC with either on-board 4+ SATA lanes or a PCIx instance which can take a daughtercard which does true parallel SATA, not serialised. TL;DR the market for home RAID/NAS is huge. We need you to stop needing us to max out with only 1 device, and sometimes M.2 keying isn't where we are. People are well beyond "2 disks is enough" in a home NAS now. thanksbai.

I long considered doing this and I the end decided storage should be an appliance not seen or heard from which is relatively self managed and hot swappable and doesn’t require too much maintenance. Qnap/synology was dropped in and hasn’t been heard from in years.

There should be a dedicated ssd nas, that would be quite cool.

Setting up local compute was worth looking at on its own.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I feel like it’s really hard to justify one of these in light of m2 Mac minis. High usage memory applications?

How so?

Depends on the application, but for base line Apple silicon mac minis, ram is like lungs, even if the cpu/legs are super fast.

The max studio m1 max on the other hand is worth looking at.

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