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iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by whyoh »

tarasglek wrote: post #57
pagthem wrote: post #46

I never understood why people would pay so much more for a phone with similar functionality as an androidd phone. I'm not saying iphones don't look and feel more premium but the price premium just doesn't make sense to me.

I thought so too, but then I got a cheap return iphone and was blown away. I now help all my friends buy cheap iphones for about $150/phone. They are either openbox or refurbished by apple, still under apple warranty. Currently iphone 11 64gb is that sweet spot. Cpu is still faster than most modern androids. Nvme ssd doesn't wear out as cheap emmc on androids. Phone receives way better software tuning than any androi…

>And best part: phone can be serviced on the cheap in almost any mall in the world. Everyone got spare screens, batteries,cases sell in dollar store.

Swapping parts like that on an iPhone doesn't work (anymore): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WhU77ihw8

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by AlexThrowAway »

darkwizard42 wrote: post #5
notch656a wrote: post #3

>52% of teens cite Amazon as their No. 1 favorite e-comm site; SHEIN, Nike, Lululemon, and Pacsun took spots No. 2-5 I've only ever heard of two on this list. Interesting. Also to note there's shockingly low diversity in footwear and phone choices. Why is the teen market such a winner take all environment?

Couldn’t tell you about Pacsun’s popularity, but SHEIN is the fast fashion of fast fashion. Absolutely dirt cheap copycat apparel shipped from China with a very liberal return policy. Lulu and Nike seem very status-oriented and I believe they don’t list on Amazon directly so makes sense there.

SHEIN has a small run just in time manufacturing model. They carry less than a day of inventory of many items and consolidate and airmail from warehouses next to their Chinese factories.

H&M and Zara cannot compete. They order three months ahead, have six months of stock sitting on slow sea freight or in stores, and discard a massive amount of clothing from their stores at the end of season.

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by MisterSandman »

bfrog wrote: post #22

Android is losing a generation, not a good sign for competition. I like my iPhone like many others I’m sure, but without competition it’s likely to stagnate and worse potentially have even higher price points.

Not really, this is only the US, from a % from across the world, it's Apple who is basically a rounding error.

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Post by parkingrift »

pagthem wrote: post #46

I never understood why people would pay so much more for a phone with similar functionality as an androidd phone. I'm not saying iphones don't look and feel more premium but the price premium just doesn't make sense to me.

Easy. Google is a spyware company, and Android is a spyware operating system. Outside of things like LineageOS or GrapheneOS I’d rather not have a phone than support Google or Android.

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Post by hnburnsy »

Fezzik wrote: post #30
Dracophoenix wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Android phones just aren't good enough to be worth the switch, especially when they're the same price. I've never paid more than $300 for an iPhone. Where, if I may ask, do you get such a good deal?

In the last decade I have never paid more than $0.00 for an iPhone. Just wait for mobile carriers to offer free phones. I switched from T-Mobile to Verizon 2 weeks ago and got a 128gig iPhone 13 mini for free. I actually wanted the SE because I like the home button but it was $400 some bucks. Carriers are constantly having promos like that when they have excess stock, the promos are just not always advertised.

Try paying cash for your phone and get a data plan from mint mobile or Google fi for $15-17 per month. you will save money.

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Post by GoToRO »

THENATHE wrote: post #55
GoToRO wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is a very local company, mostly US. The phone is not better, it's just better suited to that population.

The phone is absolutely better. Better battery, nicer looking screen, more solid feel, faster processor, better game performance, better software integration (if you don’t care about customization). The only real downside to someone that isn’t a power user is price, and even power users can tweak iOS enough for nearly any use case. An example is that you can currently sideload a virtual machine app from altstore that…

Better battery: you can't do anything with it because it's not supported. Of course you have better battery if nothing uses it.

Nicer screen: with that huge camera cutout it's just ugly.

More solid feel: if you tap the middle of the screen it feels hallow, like a cardboard box.

Better software integration: to make my apple tv to be my home hub or however it is called, I had to look up the answer. I only found the question from 12 years ago with no answer (there is no community in apple universe, just individual customers). I finally gave the answer to that question myself after a week of poking. Horrible sw integration.

Other stuff: you can't move icons where you want (what a joke!), you can't have a link to a picture on home screen, you can't... you can't... you can't... but hey look at that battery not getting drained by nothing!

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Post by GeekyBear »

zaik wrote: post #59
GeekyBear wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone needs search, and it's unfair that Google has spent over a decade creating a better search engine than its competitors, so Google should be forced to open source their search algorithms. Is this the argument you guys are seriously making? The solution for a competitor having a better product than you is to pick a single strategy and keep iterating on whatever it is you build, instead of abandoning one produc…

Search is not something that requires interoperability. I can use DDG without any of my friends using it.

iMessage already has interoperability through support for the universal SMS standard.

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Post by dartharva »

THENATHE wrote: post #55
GoToRO wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is a very local company, mostly US. The phone is not better, it's just better suited to that population.

The phone is absolutely better. Better battery, nicer looking screen, more solid feel, faster processor, better game performance, better software integration (if you don’t care about customization). The only real downside to someone that isn’t a power user is price, and even power users can tweak iOS enough for nearly any use case. An example is that you can currently sideload a virtual machine app from altstore that…

> The phone is absolutely better. Better battery, nicer looking screen, more solid feel, faster processor, better game performance, better software integration

Better than what, budget phones? Android phones worth half its price have comparable features nowadays. Apple has failed miserably in gaining customers from markets where its hegemony wasn't already established, including the world's largest smartphone markets (China & India). American localisation is absolutely the largest thing going for them.

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Post by dartharva »

GoToRO wrote: post #54
pagthem wrote: post #46

I never understood why people would pay so much more for a phone with similar functionality as an androidd phone. I'm not saying iphones don't look and feel more premium but the price premium just doesn't make sense to me.

Apple is a very local company, mostly US. The phone is not better, it's just better suited to that population.

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