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iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by ls15 »

willio58 wrote: post #39
GeekyBear wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>RCS, which is the industry standard The article I linked to points out that RCS, as used by Google today, is a proprietary closed source fork of RCS that Google has refused to create a public API for. >Google's version of RCS—the one promoted on the website with Google-exclusive features like optional encryption—is definitely proprietary, by the way. If this is supposed to be a standard, there's no way for a third-p…

Yeah it seems the only solution is for Apple and Google to truly come together and work on an open standard. At that point, if Apple refuses, it’s on Apple. I agree though, right now it really isn’t a defensible argument from Google.

The EU is going to mandate interoperability soon, because it turned out that these companies cannot be trusted with allowing users to do what they want to do.

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by GeekyBear »

GeekyBear wrote: post #26
theptip wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article you link mentions Google asking Apple to use RCS, which is the industry standard for messaging interop these days, not SMS. Apple has so far declined, so nobody can function in their Messages app.

>RCS, which is the industry standard The article I linked to points out that RCS, as used by Google today, is a proprietary closed source fork of RCS that Google has refused to create a public API for. >Google's version of RCS—the one promoted on the website with Google-exclusive features like optional encryption—is definitely proprietary, by the way. If this is supposed to be a standard, there's no way for a third-p…

Everyone needs search, and it's unfair that Google has spent over a decade creating a better search engine than its competitors, so Google should be forced to open source their search algorithms.

Is this the argument you guys are seriously making?

The solution for a competitor having a better product than you is to pick a single strategy and keep iterating on whatever it is you build, instead of abandoning one product after another.

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by GeekyBear »

ls15 wrote: post #41
willio58 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it seems the only solution is for Apple and Google to truly come together and work on an open standard. At that point, if Apple refuses, it’s on Apple. I agree though, right now it really isn’t a defensible argument from Google.

The EU is going to mandate interoperability soon, because it turned out that these companies cannot be trusted with allowing users to do what they want to do.

SMS already represents universal messaging interoperability.

Even ancient no-longer-updated dumb phones support SMS.

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by [deleted] »

Spivak wrote: post #9
kcb wrote: post #7

Yea that's what happens when Apple teams up with teens to bully anyone without an iPhone.

It really does suck to be in group chats with Android users, pictures get downsized, "Person loved 'message'", voice memos don't work, you can't see people's dnd status, no deliver quietly, no typing indicators or read receipts. You can't airdrop to them, or share iCloud notes, or contribute to shared photo albums. Facetime is far and away the best video calling experience that exists. Android phones just aren't good…

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Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by ls15 »

GeekyBear wrote: post #43
ls15 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU is going to mandate interoperability soon, because it turned out that these companies cannot be trusted with allowing users to do what they want to do.

SMS already represents universal messaging interoperability. Even ancient no-longer-updated dumb phones support SMS.

Yes, but the EU wants to open up modern messaging:

https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/24/dma-political-agreement/

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by filoleg »

f1refly wrote: post #38
Gigachad wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh car less so. The trendy thing for Zoomers is to be anti car/stroad/SUV. Using a car shows that you hate the environment.

In the city? Maybe. In rural areas you'll get nowhere without a car, it's highly desirable.

Zoomers aren't exactly moving towards rural areas en masse (in fact the opposite is true[0]), so the parent comment's point still stands.

0. https://www.jchs.harvard.edu/blog/are-millennials-leaving-ci...

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by missedthecue »

pagthem wrote: post #46

I never understood why people would pay so much more for a phone with similar functionality as an androidd phone. I'm not saying iphones don't look and feel more premium but the price premium just doesn't make sense to me.

The difference of $35 a month instead of $55 isn't that important if it means owning the iPhone.

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by foverzar »

pagthem wrote: post #46

I never understood why people would pay so much more for a phone with similar functionality as an androidd phone. I'm not saying iphones don't look and feel more premium but the price premium just doesn't make sense to me.

Why people pay so much more for a car with similar functionality as an another car?

The price isn't really such a problem if you don't indocrtinate yourself into buying a new one each year.

But this shouldn't be applicaple to teens though, probably?

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