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Didn't know WWIII already started. If you meant stopping doing businesses with a country that invades another, I'm sorry to tell you that there are not enough "non-invading" countries that can sell all the resources that we in the EU need now.
How many invading your neighbours?
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Sure but this is Germany, a financial and manufacturing powerhouse in the world. If they decided they wanted these plants to keep running I can't imagine they would have any trouble at all doing so.
Germany still does not have a solution for the nuclear waste. Nobody wants it. All the pro nuclear people turn into anti nuclear people once their region is looked at for a nuclear waste disposal site. Recently a former conservative minister got an award for fighting against wind power which is named after a former key figure of the early green movement in Germany, wo later dropped out to figth against wind turbines.…
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Exactly my point. Trying to whitewash this with "need to do business" isn't helping your arguments. Some tried to use same ones for doing business with Nazis during WWII. They very much don't like when anyone reminds about it today. Same will be for anyone who is doing business with Putin's fascists today.
I find it deeply concerning we are still very much in bed with Putin. We should have taken drastic steps early and maybe be half way in tapping alternative sources. The fact Germany is happily closing nuclear power plants shows Europe is in for a rude awakening when Putin tightens the vice.
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They could have tried at least. It’s just not a clever thing to do from a communication perspective.
Then communicate better, like turbinerneiter just did. Something not making intuitive sense for the uninitiated does not suddenly make it a good idea.
Two days ago the German government voted to to shut off the three remaining nuclear power plants. https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/klima-nachhaltigkeit/...
France is still paying MWh at far higher price than Germany now (see https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/power/futures#%7B%22snipp...). This may change with Russia closing the Nord Stream 1 but you can't say nuclear energy is the solution.
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Do you honestly believe that is a fair summary of the article? The decision to shut them down happened long ago. They voted against a proposal from the opposition to revert that. The plants were planned to shut down since a long time, there is a lot of unsolved issues around keeping them running, like fuel and personnel. The plants also would impact gas usage only by 1% and electricity isn't a great replacement short…
I wasn't summarizing the article, I was providing a source for my statement. It's irrational that Germany is shutting down secure and climate friendly power plants while Europe is in the midst of an energy crises and a war. The reason for the irrationality is that Germans (I'm one) do not want to admit that they've been wrong about nuclear energy for decades.
In retrospect it would be better if Germany did not decide to shutdown the nuclear, but presently this is a rational decision.
Two days ago the German government voted to to shut off the three remaining nuclear power plants. https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/klima-nachhaltigkeit/...
Do you honestly believe that is a fair summary of the article? The decision to shut them down happened long ago. They voted against a proposal from the opposition to revert that. The plants were planned to shut down since a long time, there is a lot of unsolved issues around keeping them running, like fuel and personnel. The plants also would impact gas usage only by 1% and electricity isn't a great replacement short…
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that storage looks like it's going to be gone in weeks at which point... the EU economy shuts down?
Can you be more specific? The storage graph look relatively flat to me. Interactive graph: https://agsi.gie.eu/graphs/eu
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Exactly my point. Trying to whitewash this with "need to do business" isn't helping your arguments. Some tried to use same ones for doing business with Nazis during WWII. They very much don't like when anyone reminds about it today. Same will be for anyone who is doing business with Putin's fascists today.
I find it deeply concerning we are still very much in bed with Putin. We should have taken drastic steps early and maybe be half way in tapping alternative sources. The fact Germany is happily closing nuclear power plants shows Europe is in for a rude awakening when Putin tightens the vice.
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Do you honestly believe that is a fair summary of the article? The decision to shut them down happened long ago. They voted against a proposal from the opposition to revert that. The plants were planned to shut down since a long time, there is a lot of unsolved issues around keeping them running, like fuel and personnel. The plants also would impact gas usage only by 1% and electricity isn't a great replacement short…
I wasn't summarizing the article, I was providing a source for my statement. It's irrational that Germany is shutting down secure and climate friendly power plants while Europe is in the midst of an energy crises and a war. The reason for the irrationality is that Germans (I'm one) do not want to admit that they've been wrong about nuclear energy for decades.
