Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

Post by google234123 » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 6:57 AM UTC

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Although average wages are around 75k, wages of lawyers are two tiered, the majority settle around ~55k and then prominent lawyers who went to good schools and were groomed to become partners make over triple that [1]. So it is a lot like other professional white collar professions like accounting where there are huge amounts of extremely overworked people in entry level jobs who were suckered into the perceived secu…

> few that make partner and rake in decent cash, which is only like average FANG entry salaries What entry level FAANG pays partner salary [1]? I need to apply. [1] https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Sidley-Austin-Partner-Attor...

Post by llimos » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 7:18 AM UTC

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Summary: entry-level jobs dried up, so people are going to law school instead. Also political motivations. Editorial: More lawyers make the country more complicated and less competitive. We need more and better people going into industrial and medical skilled trades. Think CAD/CAM, not plumber. On the other hand, I think basic legal education would probably have been more relevant than almost anything I’ve ever learn…

Where I live plumbers make more than an average software engineer. Owner operator plumbers make close to half a million a year. And don’t get me started on Plumbers operating a min of 5 trucks they make atleast a million and half. I know this because my brother law is a plumber.

Post by gnicholas » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 7:51 AM UTC

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If you can get into a top school (all of the top-3 for sure, and probably some other top-10 as well), they have loan forgiveness programs for graduates who work in public interest law. Caveat: if you're married to a spouse who earns decent money, you might find yourself disqualified on the basis of his/her income. This doesn't solve the problem about being overworked, but at least it makes being a PD more financially…

A few caveats to this, in addition to the spouse problem: 1) You are shackled to this for ten years. Dropping out early isn't just bad - it's a financial catastrophe. 2) It's based on qualified payments, not "time served" or the like, and there's lots of things that can disrupt those. Plan to fight with your loan servicer. 3) Republican administrations tend to do a will they/won't they thing with approving the actual…

Post by cudgy » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 8:07 AM UTC

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Where I live plumbers make more than an average software engineer. Owner operator plumbers make close to half a million a year. And don’t get me started on Plumbers operating a min of 5 trucks they make atleast a million and half. I know this because my brother law is a plumber.

Plumbers produce real value, i.e. the total value of the world is higher after they finish their work. This cannot be said for lawyers.

Post by cudgy » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 8:22 AM UTC

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As a potential law student how would you frame your argument against lockdowns in a world where trust in subject matter experts is down across the board (on both side, pro and against lockdowns)?

IANAPLS but I'd suggest looking into all the risks that are being completely ignored to chase the one risk that may not that be that big anymore, perhaps never was to warrant the first round of lockdowns to begin with. Who is profitting by keeping the public's focus on COVID like a laser beam and off everything else?