Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble
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#3I know I’ve considered applying to law school because I want someone to fight these damn lockdowns.
I’m curious how much of this is really a combination of more study time and people seeing value in law. Between election cases, lockdowns, etc law has been the center of a lot of the last year.
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#4Insane: https://www.wsj.com/articles/law-school-student-debt-low-sal...
From the thread link:
> Experts attribute the crush of applications to a number of factors, particularly the slowdown in the entry-level job market caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Law school and other graduate programs historically become more popular when jobs are tougher to come by in slow economies. Law school applicants shot up nearly 18% in 2002, amid the bursting of the so-called dot-com bubble. The number of people applying also climbed nearly 4% in 2009, amid the Great Recession.
> But current events separate from the economy also prompted more people to consider a law degree this cycle, said Susan Krinsky, the council’s executive vice president for operations. The death of George Floyd, the national reckoning over systemic racism and inequality, and the death of iconic U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg all focused attention on the rule of law and the role lawyers play in pushing for a more equitable society. Election years also tend to yield more law school applicants, she noted.
Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble
#5Insane: https://www.wsj.com/articles/law-school-student-debt-low-sal...
From the thread link: > Experts attribute the crush of applications to a number of factors, particularly the slowdown in the entry-level job market caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Law school and other graduate programs historically become more popular when jobs are tougher to come by in slow economies. Law school applicants shot up nearly 18% in 2002, amid the bursting of the so-called dot-com bubble. The number of…
Has anyone ever done a study on the costs/benefits of funding public defenders? Better funded public defenders, I imagine, would result in fewer and shorter prison sentences (saving money), but I guess also have some potential for an increase in crime (costing money).
Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble
#6I know I’ve considered applying to law school because I want someone to fight these damn lockdowns. I’m curious how much of this is really a combination of more study time and people seeing value in law. Between election cases, lockdowns, etc law has been the center of a lot of the last year.
As a potential law student how would you frame your argument against lockdowns in a world where trust in subject matter experts is down across the board (on both side, pro and against lockdowns)?
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#7When I was considering going to law school I learned some sobering facts:
- something like 75% of lawyers would not recommend their children go in to law
- there is a high rate of burnout among lawyers
- while the public perception is that lawyers are extremely high paid, that's only the case some elite lawyers that went to elite schools and work for elite firms[1]
For someone like me, who doesn't just want to help the rich get richer, working in, say, a public defender's office will probably mean being really overworked and underpaid and not even be able to devote a reasonable amount of time to the people I was defending because of the workload.
This made me wonder: do I really want to go from being burnt out in IT to being burnt out in law? It didn't sound very appealing.
I'd love to hear a lawyer or someone else who knows more about this to correct me, if I've been mislead.
[1] - Just today on HN I was reading someone say that they pay their software developers "much much more" than their they do their legal department: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28050106
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#8Summary: entry-level jobs dried up, so people are going to law school instead. Also political motivations.
Editorial: More lawyers make the country more complicated and less competitive. We need more and better people going into industrial and medical skilled trades. Think CAD/CAM, not plumber. On the other hand, I think basic legal education would probably have been more relevant than almost anything I’ve ever learned in a classroom, and law school might have been worth it just for my own purposes. Minus the political activism of course, which I guess is center stage now.
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#9Apparently med school applications were up 18% (in 2020). Which surprises me, I would think COVID might have scared more people off.
https://www.ama-assn.org/residents-students/preparing-medica...
Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble
#10I know I’ve considered applying to law school because I want someone to fight these damn lockdowns. I’m curious how much of this is really a combination of more study time and people seeing value in law. Between election cases, lockdowns, etc law has been the center of a lot of the last year.
As a potential law student how would you frame your argument against lockdowns in a world where trust in subject matter experts is down across the board (on both side, pro and against lockdowns)?
Irrelevant. You’d have to find statute and precedent for the authorities required in enforcement. Law is not supposed to be rhetoric.