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Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by Covzire »

haggy102 wrote: post #6
lettergram wrote: post #3

I know I’ve considered applying to law school because I want someone to fight these damn lockdowns. I’m curious how much of this is really a combination of more study time and people seeing value in law. Between election cases, lockdowns, etc law has been the center of a lot of the last year.

As a potential law student how would you frame your argument against lockdowns in a world where trust in subject matter experts is down across the board (on both side, pro and against lockdowns)?

IANAPLS but I'd suggest looking into all the risks that are being completely ignored to chase the one risk that may not that be that big anymore, perhaps never was to warrant the first round of lockdowns to begin with. Who is profitting by keeping the public's focus on COVID like a laser beam and off everything else?

Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by lettergram »

haggy102 wrote: post #6
lettergram wrote: post #3

I know I’ve considered applying to law school because I want someone to fight these damn lockdowns. I’m curious how much of this is really a combination of more study time and people seeing value in law. Between election cases, lockdowns, etc law has been the center of a lot of the last year.

As a potential law student how would you frame your argument against lockdowns in a world where trust in subject matter experts is down across the board (on both side, pro and against lockdowns)?

There’s quite a few people I know as well who are considering going to school as well.

The gist has been the same, the constitution doesn’t appear to be being followed and as a lawyer you have the ability to defend your rights.

I’m not sure what caused this particular spike (a lot of alone time?) but I know a lot of people are feeling this way.

In terms of an argument: 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, 14th are amendments are clearly being violated in many regions. Further, given the risk profile of this disease (mitigation’s, high survival rate, etc), there’s no reasonable argument to abridge rights. Particularly, for a long period of time

Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by avs733 »

arn wrote: post #9

Apparently med school applications were up 18% (in 2020). Which surprises me, I would think COVID might have scared more people off. https://www.ama-assn.org/residents-students/preparing-medica...

People are actually inspired by it.

Their perception is actually being a doctor is so far away that things will be solved by then.

Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by NotSammyHagar »

lettergram wrote: post #12
haggy102 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a potential law student how would you frame your argument against lockdowns in a world where trust in subject matter experts is down across the board (on both side, pro and against lockdowns)?

There’s quite a few people I know as well who are considering going to school as well. The gist has been the same, the constitution doesn’t appear to be being followed and as a lawyer you have the ability to defend your rights. I’m not sure what caused this particular spike (a lot of alone time?) but I know a lot of people are feeling this way. In terms of an argument: 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, 14th are amendments are clea…

Can you describe why you think the Constitution isn't being followed? That's kind of a generic argument. "People might believe something" without there being any rational basis for it.

Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by otterley »

jl2718 wrote: post #8

Summary: entry-level jobs dried up, so people are going to law school instead. Also political motivations. Editorial: More lawyers make the country more complicated and less competitive. We need more and better people going into industrial and medical skilled trades. Think CAD/CAM, not plumber. On the other hand, I think basic legal education would probably have been more relevant than almost anything I’ve ever learn…

> Think CAD/CAM, not plumber.

Have you tried to hire a skilled plumber, landscaper, carpenter, or mason in a major city lately? There's a massive tradesperson shortage.

Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by otterley »

lettergram wrote: post #3

I know I’ve considered applying to law school because I want someone to fight these damn lockdowns. I’m curious how much of this is really a combination of more study time and people seeing value in law. Between election cases, lockdowns, etc law has been the center of a lot of the last year.

There are plenty of lawyers out there already who are perfectly capable of making cogent arguments as to why lockdowns are unlawful. But the problem is that they are lawful, so even the most eloquent argument will still lose in court. Adding more voices to the chorus won't help, in the same way that having more attorneys arguing that speed limits and income taxes are unconstitutional won't help.

On the other hand, going to law school will help you learn the law, so perhaps you will come out with more realistic views than when you went in. :-)

Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by lettergram »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #14
lettergram wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s quite a few people I know as well who are considering going to school as well. The gist has been the same, the constitution doesn’t appear to be being followed and as a lawyer you have the ability to defend your rights. I’m not sure what caused this particular spike (a lot of alone time?) but I know a lot of people are feeling this way. In terms of an argument: 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, 14th are amendments are clea…

Can you describe why you think the Constitution isn't being followed? That's kind of a generic argument. "People might believe something" without there being any rational basis for it.

In CA and NY the Supreme Court ruled laws baring religious practices as unconstitutional for one.

So, clearly there’s some issue there.

In LA they were shutting off peoples utilities for not following mayoral edicts.

The first amendment for peaceable assembly doesn’t go away — period — during time of crisis. Facebook has a portal setup where the CA Secretary of State is marking content to ban (court case is making its way through the federal circuits)

Arguably, the 9th amendment is being violated as it related to vaccine passports. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt9-2-1/ALD...

There is an absolute insane number of issues with the past year... I can go on and on

Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by lettergram »

otterley wrote: post #16
lettergram wrote: post #3

I know I’ve considered applying to law school because I want someone to fight these damn lockdowns. I’m curious how much of this is really a combination of more study time and people seeing value in law. Between election cases, lockdowns, etc law has been the center of a lot of the last year.

There are plenty of lawyers out there already who are perfectly capable of making cogent arguments as to why lockdowns are unlawful. But the problem is that they are lawful, so even the most eloquent argument will still lose in court. Adding more voices to the chorus won't help, in the same way that having more attorneys arguing that speed limits and income taxes are unconstitutional won't help. On the other hand, go…

You assume these people entering law school don’t intend to go into politics.

I suspect a large number do intend to make the laws.

Also it’s not entirely accurate that lockdowns are lawful. There’s been several Supreme Court cases that have limited what they can do in the past several months.

Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by otterley »

lettergram wrote: post #18
otterley wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of lawyers out there already who are perfectly capable of making cogent arguments as to why lockdowns are unlawful. But the problem is that they are lawful, so even the most eloquent argument will still lose in court. Adding more voices to the chorus won't help, in the same way that having more attorneys arguing that speed limits and income taxes are unconstitutional won't help. On the other hand, go…

You assume these people entering law school don’t intend to go into politics. I suspect a large number do intend to make the laws. Also it’s not entirely accurate that lockdowns are lawful. There’s been several Supreme Court cases that have limited what they can do in the past several months.

Spending 6 figures to go to law school for the sole purpose of entering politics is a terrible waste of money. The best way to enter politics is to run in a local race and convince people to vote for you. It'll cost you a lot less than that, and other people may even pay for your campaign. Once you're there, there are staff lawyers to help draft legislation.

> Also it’s not entirely accurate that lockdowns are lawful. There’s been several Supreme Court cases that have limited what they can do in the past several months.

The only one I'm aware of is an order that prohibited New York from imposing more significant restrictions on churches than shops. That's not a decision that lockdowns are unlawful; it's a decision that they need to be applied evenly. Are you aware of any others?

Re: Law school applicants surge 13%, biggest increase since dot-com bubble

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Post by brundolf »

pmoriarty wrote: post #7

When I was considering going to law school I learned some sobering facts: - something like 75% of lawyers would not recommend their children go in to law - there is a high rate of burnout among lawyers - while the public perception is that lawyers are extremely high paid, that's only the case some elite lawyers that went to elite schools and work for elite firms[1] For someone like me, who doesn't just want to help t…

My girlfriend was a lawyer for a few years. Shortly after we met she went to a bootcamp for coding, immediately got a new job, and now (a couple years later) makes something like 4x what she did as a lawyer. Of course she was doing contract work for a small local firm, but that was the best job she could find in the job market as it was.
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