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Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Thank you for the comments. Please note that I made this Keybee Keyboard first for myself because I could not type good in a qwerty smartphone. Secondly I decided to make it for everyone and give it for free (free apps and no ads). I invested a lot of time, passion and money just to create a better typing experience for more people. I also decided to protect my idea because, in case of success, I can tranform this project in a full time job. There's nothing wrong on that an nobody obliges you to use it as your definitive keyboard. Happy 2018..!!! Marco. ;-)

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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While I fully agree with you, there are several issues here: - the word "free" has several meanings in English, i.e. "free" as in "no charge" and "free" as in "freedom" (free access, free software, etc.) - the answer given there does not indicate which one of those is meant. - patents have most likely been granted in countries that recognise them - this does not prevent from the patent being put into public domain. H…

The sentence itself implies libre, not being patent-encumbered. Donating a great innovation to humanity means making the knowledge freely available for use. It does not mean using the knowledge to create a product and then making this product freely available.

> The sentence itself implies libre

Free can imply free as in speech (libre) or free as in beer (gratis). Libre does not imply not being patent encumbered either, it refers to the software license.

Also, I suggest you Hanlon's razor [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Did you try swipe? I can't really use it personally because I switch between different languages too often, but it's practical if you're only writing in one language.

Swipe-based touch keyboards don't work for me. Compared to touch-tapping, I find I have worse accuracy. I also find them much more frustrating, because correcting a swipe mistake is a lot more expensive compared to tap mistake. At least when tapping, I get steady and immediate feedback when spelling out a word, and I can fix a mistake quickly just using backspace and without much thought, and then carry on as usual.…

Does anyone have any research on the effectiveness of swype-based keyboards? Accuracy and correcting mistakes based on dictionaries? How does age and previous experience affect the use cases?

Keybee has suggestions support based on AOSP dictionaries, by default off.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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post #63

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Swipe-based touch keyboards don't work for me. Compared to touch-tapping, I find I have worse accuracy. I also find them much more frustrating, because correcting a swipe mistake is a lot more expensive compared to tap mistake. At least when tapping, I get steady and immediate feedback when spelling out a word, and I can fix a mistake quickly just using backspace and without much thought, and then carry on as usual.…

Does anyone have any research on the effectiveness of swype-based keyboards? Accuracy and correcting mistakes based on dictionaries? How does age and previous experience affect the use cases? Keybee has suggestions support based on AOSP dictionaries, by default off.

Text algorithms (swipe, prediction and autocorrection) create issues on performances of the mobile devices (swiftkey for instance is super slow) and often mistakes due to misunderstanding meaning slowing down the typing experience.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Writing anything on modern touchscreen smartphones is so frustrating. I think the problem is that the touchscreen is always going to be an inferior interface to a physical button. I remember what it was like using PDAs and smartphones with actual physical keys. After a brief period of adjustment to a new device, I was soon typing without any mistakes. It was such a low-friction transfer of my thoughts to digital form…

While I agree with your sentiment, I don't think physical keyboards are a good solution either. Not having the smallest hands, I vividly remember trying to type on those tiny buttons of old and getting pretty frustrated, too.

I was thinking about switching from Android to Sailfish OS for a while now and quickly realized that my personal reason for Android lock-in is a keyboard called SlideType[1]. I really have to figure out how to write keyboards for Sailfish one day.

[1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.latinsud.a...

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Does it work in landscape mode? I had some odd issues with landscape mode where the keyboard seemed to be in portrait mode instead, overlaying my other app (WhatsApp in this case).

Hello. For now Keybee it is not optimized for smartphones in landscape mode.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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You might be interested in the physical keyboard add-on module "Moto Mods" for the Motorola Z series https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keyboard-mod-a-physical-k...

Yay, QWERTY! QWERTY is being used for legacy reasons ("because we've always had QWERTY"), because its the widely available standard (including on computers not owned by the user meaning users need to ask or configure other computers are swap back and forth between layouts), and because people don't want to relearn a new layout. The original reason why QWERTY was desired is due to typewriters getting stuck less quick…

>The original reason why QWERTY was desired is due to typewriters getting stuck less quick because the movement wasn't efficient. That was intentional, a legacy from the 19th century!

That is an urban myth refuted by the author of qwerty, but it just doesn't die.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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post #25

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While I fully agree with you, there are several issues here: - the word "free" has several meanings in English, i.e. "free" as in "no charge" and "free" as in "freedom" (free access, free software, etc.) - the answer given there does not indicate which one of those is meant. - patents have most likely been granted in countries that recognise them - this does not prevent from the patent being put into public domain. H…

The sentence itself implies libre, not being patent-encumbered. Donating a great innovation to humanity means making the knowledge freely available for use. It does not mean using the knowledge to create a product and then making this product freely available.

https://www.google.nl/search?q=define+free&oq=define+free

>The sentence itself implies libre, not being patent-encumbered

Nope. It is used as an adverb, for which the dominant meaning is 'without cost'.

And you know this. You are just here spinning. I love libre software, but when you abuse language to make a political point it disgusts me just as much when I hear the words 'pro-life' or 'job-creators'.

If you want to claim you continuously confuse 'free' as as an adverb for patent free gnu stuff you are either an idiot or disingenuous

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Does anyone have any research on the effectiveness of swype-based keyboards? Accuracy and correcting mistakes based on dictionaries? How does age and previous experience affect the use cases? Keybee has suggestions support based on AOSP dictionaries, by default off.

Text algorithms (swipe, prediction and autocorrection) create issues on performances of the mobile devices (swiftkey for instance is super slow) and often mistakes due to misunderstanding meaning slowing down the typing experience.

google keyboard is unsuable currently on iOS 11 (iPhone 6S), but that might also be because Apple updares are messing up with older phones.
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