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Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Post by baby »

infodroid wrote: post #5

Writing anything on modern touchscreen smartphones is so frustrating. I think the problem is that the touchscreen is always going to be an inferior interface to a physical button. I remember what it was like using PDAs and smartphones with actual physical keys. After a brief period of adjustment to a new device, I was soon typing without any mistakes. It was such a low-friction transfer of my thoughts to digital form…

Did you try swipe? I can't really use it personally because I switch between different languages too often, but it's practical if you're only writing in one language.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Post by gruez »

morganvachon wrote: post #31

I'm confused by this statement: > "Keybee is simple and clear because all the letters are always available (no hidden keys) and they all have the same size" Checking my iPhone and my wife's Android phone, as well as an old Windows Phone I have in a drawer, all of the letters of the alphabet are available on the default board, none are hidden, and they are all the same size as each other on each respective keyboard. A…

I think that statement was referencing other alternative keyboards, not standard qwerty

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Post by wbolster »

petercooper wrote: post #26

"swipe typing" is already streets ahead speed-wise on mobile devices. One touch per word. And having a little travel distance is actually a benefit as it helps distinguish the words.

this is a very important point. i tried swiping in my phone using the colemak keyboard layout which i use on normal keyboards, and found it utterly unusable because the prediction quality dramatically goes down. this is most likely caused by the lack of shapes made with the swiping gestures: colemak has the most common letters on the home row so on practice you're mostly swiping left/right.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Post by papaly1983 »

morganvachon wrote: post #40
papaly1983 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check this link (slide number 9) for the answer: https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/keybee2013/keybee-she-smar...

That does absolutely nothing to answer my question. You show a QWERTY layout in the center, from a Windows Phone device, with every letter key the same size relative to one another as I said above. Maybe I'm just not smart enough to see the difference from a slide with screenshots and captions that make dubious statements, but I'd appreciate if you would explain anyway.

Of course. There is no difference between qwerty and keybee in term of instantness. The difference is between other alternative layouts which claims to be quicker even if they do not shows all the letters (lack of instantness). Qwerty as Keybee shows all the letters at the same size. But Keybee can show them two times bigger than qwerty thanks to the hex structure.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Post by papaly1983 »

dsego wrote: post #21

The 4/5 setup screen is confusing because the OK button is hidden. I actually though it wanted me to type in PLAY and got frustrated until I figured out it was just an animation. But I couldn't see the button until I scrolled accidentally and the OK button appeared.

I will fix it soon, I promise..!!! Thank you for your feedback.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Post by 477353468463695 »

rjcz wrote: post #25
badsectoracula wrote: post #20

> Yes, all the greatest tech innovations are free. So Keybee is free and it will be always free because the keyboard is the basic human > Keybee was invented, developed and patented by Marco Papalia That is dishonest, it isn't free if it is encumbered by patents. Also i'm not sure how this works considering the author is from Italy and EU doesn't consider software patentable.

While I fully agree with you, there are several issues here: - the word "free" has several meanings in English, i.e. "free" as in "no charge" and "free" as in "freedom" (free access, free software, etc.) - the answer given there does not indicate which one of those is meant. - patents have most likely been granted in countries that recognise them - this does not prevent from the patent being put into public domain. H…

The sentence itself implies libre, not being patent-encumbered. Donating a great innovation to humanity means making the knowledge freely available for use. It does not mean using the knowledge to create a product and then making this product freely available.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Post by wbolster »

477353468463695 wrote: post #48
rjcz wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I fully agree with you, there are several issues here: - the word "free" has several meanings in English, i.e. "free" as in "no charge" and "free" as in "freedom" (free access, free software, etc.) - the answer given there does not indicate which one of those is meant. - patents have most likely been granted in countries that recognise them - this does not prevent from the patent being put into public domain. H…

The sentence itself implies libre, not being patent-encumbered. Donating a great innovation to humanity means making the knowledge freely available for use. It does not mean using the knowledge to create a product and then making this product freely available.

thank you, random stranger, for sharing your gnu/extremism.

while i am in no way defending software patents (which I don't like at all), i find the full-frontal attack attitude that you and many other gnu/zealots exhibit towards random strangers on the internet so infuriating that i am writing this comment here to let you know that people like you are exactly what prevents me (and many others) from getting involved in some free (libre) software projects.

thanks so much for your contribution to the advancement of libre software.

yuck.

Re: Keybee: a new keyboard layout designed specifically for touchscreen devices

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Post by morganvachon »

papaly1983 wrote: post #46
morganvachon wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That does absolutely nothing to answer my question. You show a QWERTY layout in the center, from a Windows Phone device, with every letter key the same size relative to one another as I said above. Maybe I'm just not smart enough to see the difference from a slide with screenshots and captions that make dubious statements, but I'd appreciate if you would explain anyway.

Of course. There is no difference between qwerty and keybee in term of instantness. The difference is between other alternative layouts which claims to be quicker even if they do not shows all the letters (lack of instantness). Qwerty as Keybee shows all the letters at the same size. But Keybee can show them two times bigger than qwerty thanks to the hex structure.

That's still a non-answer. I'm going to chalk it up to a language barrier as I don't want to assume bad faith on your part.
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