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Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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The firebug theme in firefox dev tools has eased the pain somewhat for me.

Thanks for mentioning it! I still miss the Firebug, it just made more sense to me. For anyone searching for info how to enable the theme: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Settings

That helped a lot

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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Firebug didn't just raise the bar for web debugging, it pretty much raised the bar for all debugging tools. It leaves a great legacy with the built-in dev tools. Great project.

I often argue that Firebug is the reason Firefox is still around. It was easier to develop on Firefox and then debug on IE. So a lot of websites worked on Firefox even if the management team didn't care (or even, in our case, when they told us not to support Firefox and we nodded and did it anyway)

I think a smaller reason is that Selenium for the longest time supported Firefox as the simplest default.

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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post #49

Firebug didn't just raise the bar for web debugging, it pretty much raised the bar for all debugging tools. It leaves a great legacy with the built-in dev tools. Great project.

I often argue that Firebug is the reason Firefox is still around. It was easier to develop on Firefox and then debug on IE. So a lot of websites worked on Firefox even if the management team didn't care (or even, in our case, when they told us not to support Firefox and we nodded and did it anyway)

100% why I didn't even consider trying another browser

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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> I absolutely abhor the network panel in Chrome. What do you mean? There are plenty of ways to filter down the activity tab in Chrome if the problem you're experiencing is that the volume of requests is too high to be useful.

I am more at home in FF so this might not be true for Chrome... Just look at the simplicity and elegance of Firebug net panel ( https://2r4s9p1yi1fa2jd7j43zph8r-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/fil... ). I love Mozilla and respect them immensely, but any change they made to Firebug was for the worse. If they just copied the functionalities and design the result would be much better. I am very sorry I had to stop using Firebug…

You can get a similar view in Chrome by turning off the filter button and the two view buttons in the network toolbar, then ctrl-click on any of the columns in the table to hide the ones you aren't interested in.

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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Does anyone know the history of the `console` object? The first time I ever saw it and used it was with Firebug, but it occurs to me that I don't know if Firebug invented it. Did it just decide to inject this name into the global namespace? And having it become a common API across multiple JS environments was due to its popularity in Firebug? Or was it somehow already in JS and I just wasn't aware of it up until that point?

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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Does anyone know the history of the `console` object? The first time I ever saw it and used it was with Firebug, but it occurs to me that I don't know if Firebug invented it. Did it just decide to inject this name into the global namespace? And having it become a common API across multiple JS environments was due to its popularity in Firebug? Or was it somehow already in JS and I just wasn't aware of it up until that…

My recollection is that you are correct; it originated with Firebug and sprouted in other browsers after that, but I would love some history around it too.

Here's console.js in 2007: https://github.com/firebug/firebug/blob/85f35d8e871783adcf9c...

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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Things instantly became real when firebug for IE came out. To me that one tool made a front end web development career a viable option. Do y'all remember JS before Firebug? ouch

alert()

How about MODI - the mouseover DOM inspector loaded as a favelet.

http://slayeroffice.com/?c=/content/tools/modi.html

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