Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

Post by maxerickson » Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 6:47 PM UTC

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I find your conflation of support for vaccines with support for lockdowns rather odd, because vaccines are the main thing that lessens the need for social restrictions! > Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that i…

> They show around 70-80% protection (with 3 doses for Omicron, 2 for earlier variants) That protection level lasts for about two months and then nosedives to uselessness[0]. If we keep pumping people with boosters, the manufacturers and the media aren't going to be able to keep suppressing reporting about the resulting heart issues the mRNA vaccines cause in many people[1]. Again, the vaccines are astoundingly leaky…

Post by nradov » Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 6:59 PM UTC

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None of that is relevant or actionable. Everyone including children will be exposed regardless of what we do. Fortunately the vaccines and other treatments are pretty good at preventing severe symptoms. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646

Your link is an outdated opinion piece from someone who makes money from cancer self help books. This may come as a surprise to you but contagious respiratory diseases can be prevented. N95 masks and clean air are known actionable cost effective solutions. https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/wiss-cheese-model...

Post by maxerickson » Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 7:09 PM UTC

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I think I just fundamentally disagree that we pay our teachers, workers and other frontline workers like yourself enough (though I'm not sure how much firefighters make) to warrant them risking themselves if they don't have to. Teachers can teach with remote learning. Maybe it's not as good, but it's doable. You can't stop a fire remotely. We really need to reevaluate society by making work safer and making sure peop…

How much should people be paid to risk themselves? The US Army pays privates about $21K per year. Remote learning doesn't work for most children, especially the youngest ones and those with bad home environments. The laptop class seems to intentionally ignore that reality.

Post by Lamad123 » Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 7:19 PM UTC

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Cherchez les unjustifiéd lockdowns, cher Talleyrand!

Is this a reference to the quote "cherchez la femme" being attributed to Talleyrand? I found that claim here[0], but it doesn't seem to be correct; this source[1] attributes it to Dumas. Talleyrand may have said « La politique, c’est les femmes » [2] but I couldn't find a clear source for that either. [0] https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/cherchez_la_femme#%C3%89tymol... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherchez_la_fem…

Post by watwut » Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 7:48 PM UTC

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I suspect one reason are online games. Boys are more likely to play them and in lockdown, they were the one of few socialization available. It does not matter what are reasons for disparity. But, the boys were more likely to continue some unchanged socialization ad they had before. They already had established groups to play with and so on.

Did you just pin one of the reason for suicides on online games? What is this politician talking points from the early 2000’s? I promise you kids have been forming groups and have had feelings of exclusion that existed well before online games. The root cause here wouldn’t be online games in of themselves.