Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

Post by adrr » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 8:57 PM UTC

3vidence wrote: post #389

Tiktaalik wrote: post #299

I never voted for Justin Trudeau and don't like him, but despite all the angry rhetoric right now in the long term I think he will be considered by history to be one of the better Canadian PMs. Amongst the Canadian PMs I've experienced, Chretien, Martin, Harper, Trudeau made the most impactful and positive policy changes (eg. legal cannabis, childcare) while navigating the country through the challenges of covid and…

There is absolutely no way he will be looked at as one of the better Canadian PMs.. By all accounts he will be looked at as one of the worst considering the position Canada was in at the start and end of his government. Inflation, unemployment, housing, homelessness, healthcare, crime, national unity, the overall economy. .. Just all of these things are significantly worse than 2015. With that being said I do think c…

Post by roncesvalles » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 8:59 PM UTC

ungreased0675 wrote: post #290

mass_and_energy wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YSK that the people who had their accounts frozen weren't simply protesting in Ottawa; they were blocking international borders to our largest trading partner, effectively holding our economy hostage. This absolutely constitutes behavior that's a danger to our nation so it makes sense to freeze the accounts of the people doing it. To be clear, there were many attempts to settle this without freezing people's bank acc…

That logic seems like it would outlaw labor strikes too, especially in important industries. Sometimes, holding the economy hostage is the point. I take exception to the framing of “attempts to settle this.” The government used violence and threat of violence to make the problem go away. There wasn’t an attempt at compromise. Do what I say or else isn’t an attempt to settle.

Post by boringg » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 9:01 PM UTC

CamelCaseName wrote: post #376

TriangleEdge wrote: post #262

I have migrated from Canada to the USA and my metrics for wealth, ease of mind, actually working while at work, outgoingness, etc instantly improved. I don't plan on ever going back. I feel chagrin at seeing Canada fail. I'm glad to see Justin Trudeau pressured out, I know there won't be meaningful change associated with the decision, but I have hope.

What was your path of immigration into the US as a Canadian? Any tips or advice?

Post by armchairhacker » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 9:01 PM UTC

dfxm12 wrote: post #559

reverendsteveii wrote: post #539

Is it me or does it seem like the internet era has taken away incumbent advantage and actually put incumbents at a massive disadvantage? I'm not here to attack or defend what Trudeau has actually done, only to posit the idea that once you become a leader in the political landscape there is a very effective machine whose only job is to attack you, personally, as much as possible anywhere you're perceived to be vulnera…

The machine isn't against the incumbent, it wants to move things to the right. This is why Obama gets mainstream media outrage for superficial things like wearing a tan suit. Also it is why Biden (correctly) got a lot of negative coverage for being too old to serve but people like Trump or Kay Ivey relatively get a pass.

Post by 3vidence » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 9:02 PM UTC

jlos wrote: post #402

As a close watcher of Canadian politics, here's the best summary I can offer for those not familiar: Overal Picture Canada has seen gdp-per-capita decline for nearly every quarter over the past 3 years. Large stimulus spending during the pandemic fueled the housing crisis and added massive inflation. Stimulating the economy through similarly massive increases in Non-Permanent Residents has kept GDP afloat, but come a…