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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by johnnyanmac »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #219
Spagbol wrote: post #142

I have not done significant research, but the more I have read about Jimmy Carter the more I am convinced he is very underrated, and the more I read about Reagan the more I beleive he was a bad choice for the average U.S. citizen long-term (e.g. destroying the U.S. lead on climate tech, and creating policies that ultimately eroded the wealth of the middle class) Reagan was certainly charming, but I beleive he didn't…

I view both of them positively (unusual I suppose). Honestly compared to the poor presidents we’ve been getting in this century, the 20th makes me very jealous in retrospect.

The best 21st century presidents can barely do much, so are basically nothing burgers. Any policies they do pass are basically negated in 4 years. And the worst ones make me yearn for Regean. At least he pretended to care about the american people.

That was definitely the biggest change in 50 years. There seemed to be a lot more bipartisan support for things overall that would actually help the country. Now it's a pissing contest at the turn of the century. Good bills won't pass simply because of who's name is on the bill.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by fargle »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #549
mmooss wrote: post #502

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Why would that make a lot of sense? Is there a large untapped electorate elsewhere on the spectrum? And more importantly, is there any evidence?

You're asking for a lot of evidence on what's overall the opinions of an entire country. Something entire electorial campaigns apparently struggle to do despite their funding ballooning. You have to do that research yourself, that isn't a question answered within HN's character limit. But Bernie's popularity along the youth probably was not just some trend, to help you start.

> You're asking for a lot of evidence on what's overall the opinions of an entire country

we literally just had a referendum on that. moving further left from 2016-2020-2024 lost voters. how pissed off do people have to be to have that result? that implies, very strongly, to me that there is a huge segment in the center-left to center-right that is really irritated right now. not bernie's group for sure. although he seems more center compared to the "squad". you should thank them for that.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by EFreethought »

JackFr wrote: post #493
lolinder wrote: post #300

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> Confirming Mr. Barnes’s account is problematic after so much time. Mr. Connally, Mr. Casey and other central figures have long since died and Mr. Barnes has no diaries or memos to corroborate his account. But he has no obvious reason to make up the story and indeed expressed trepidation at going public because of the reaction of fellow Democrats ... > None of that establishes whether Mr. Reagan knew about the trip,…

Further it’s far from given that had the hostages been released Carter would be re-elected. 1980 was the second straight year of double digit inflation. Reagan was elected with 51% of the popular vote to Carter’s 41% and carried 44 states to Carter’s 6(+DC), tallying 489 electoral votes to Carter’s 49. This was not a close election.

There is a good chance that if the hostages had been released before election day that Carter would have won.

Hamilton Jordan, his chief of staff, wrote a book about Carter's last year in office. A lot of people thought Reagan was a clown. He was not as popular as his worshippers in the GOP like to think. Reagan was usually ahead of Carter in polls before the election, but usually by a few points, not the same margin as the final count.

The hostage crisis started on Nov 4, 1979; the one year anniversary of the hostages being taken was right on election day. A lot of media was running stories on the hostages in the week leading up to the election, particularly over the weekend. Jordan says there was a shift that took them all by surprise in its speed and magnitude. When you spend months only a point or two behind, it is easy to think you might win.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

LorenDB wrote: post #109
kamikazeturtles wrote: post #9

Of all the presidents I've seen in my lifetime, I think President Carter might be the only one who felt genuine and didn't exhibit narcissism.

I may be speaking out of turn here as somebody born in this century, but after reading the book The Man I Knew I have held a high regard for George H. W. Bush. He, like Carter, was a great human who really cared about others. Again, for all I know, he could have presented himself differently during his term in office, but after his term was up, his life seems genuine to me. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5564882…

in the last century, I think HW bush would get a solid top 3 placement (a bit hard to top FDR). He seemed to be one of the last conservative presidents that seemed to be trying to do the right things. And kicked out for doing so. No one likes it when "the right thing" raises their taxes.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

SoftTalker wrote: post #441
nla wrote: post #197

My parents almost lost their house to a 19% mortgage after he was in office.

This is the big reason he lost in such a landslide. The economy was awful. Good man, but a terrible president.

Even a president can't just snap their fingers and fix inflation overnight. We're going through the exact same thing right now.

it was a miracle enough that they brought down the crazy inflation from COVID and stopped another recession. It's a shame that it seemed like that remission reversed right before election season, though.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #221
macinjosh wrote: post #107

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And now flying is the worst consumer experience of them all and Budweiser is made out of rice. Is this winning?

The US has the best selection of beer varieties of any country and flying is cheaper in absolute dollars than in the 70s

Part of me still wonders if those deregulations would have stopped Boeing, or if Boeing simply would have been sneakier.

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Post by tombert »

Levitz wrote: post #354
JasserInicide wrote: post #264

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Republicans have always been pro-immigrant because it's inherently pro-business. They just have to do a song and dance routine for the low IQ racist cohort of their constituency to make it seem like they're tough on it. Though I will say it's been rather amusing watching people act betrayed by Elon's thoughts on H1-B visa holders. Like, how did you idiots not see this coming? He's the richest person in the world for…

>Republicans have always been pro-immigrant because it's inherently pro-business. They just have to do a song and dance routine for the low IQ racist cohort of their constituency to make it seem like they're tough on it. It has consistently been about illegal immigration. You are calling people "low IQ" and "Idiots" and you, literally in this very post, show you are falling for the same thing they fell for.

I am sure for some people it’s about “illegal” immigration, and that’s certainly the messaging, but if that were actually the main case, maybe Republicans would do something to make legal immigration less awful?

My idiot grandmother, in no uncertain terms, thinks Mexicans should be deported for racist reasons. She has let the curtain slip enough times to make that obvious. I don’t think it’s bad to call outright racist people “idiots”.

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Post by eru »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #539
efitz wrote: post #509

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Not by itself, not anymore, because of ACA. For most people, the most cost effective insurance is catastrophic major medical + self-pay for anything else. What passes for insurance now really isn’t “insurance” in the sense that completely expected, and even likely, events are covered. It’s more like paying for discount healthcare but has the major medical built in.

Catastrophic health insurance makes no sense as an insurance product since the probability of catastrophic health event costing hundreds of thousands of dollars is so high as one ages. Heart disease and cancer is a given, and that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to treat, and premature babies are in the millions. US health insurance is a combination healthcare purchasing agent/second opinion/fraud detection/in…

> Catastrophic health insurance makes no sense as an insurance product since the probability of catastrophic health event costing hundreds of thousands of dollars is so high as one ages.

Then no health insurance would make sense?

Well, as you suggest, the regulations that cap the premiums for old people at 3x those of young people seem to blame?

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Post by eru »

steego wrote: post #523
jliptzin wrote: post #479

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Everyone already has it, the cost is just absorbed by the public instead of being taken out of the taxes of the person receiving the emergency care, assuming they can’t afford the hospital bill.

Having doctors treat and stabilize patients because they are required by EMTALA is an entirely different animal than having catastrophic medical insurance. Real catastrophic medical insurance caps how much you owe whereas the debt you accumulate from a doctor who was obligated to treat you is not capped. That debt follows you until you pay it off or declare bankruptcy like the 500,000 other Americans do each year. To…

> We’re already spending enough for TWO universal healthcare systems (for many countries), yet we have 500,000 filing for bankruptcy due to medical bills each year.

Well, you are spending approximately twice as much as the Brits in terms of percentage of GDP. (Comparing total healthcare expenditure, ie private plus public.)

But that doesn't mean that NHS-style healthcare is the best.

Singapore spends roughly health as much as Britain, and has no worse health outcomes. And we don't have a single payer system here.

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