Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Jimmy Carter has died

washingtonpost.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

531–540 of 879 posts

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#531

Post by johnnyanmac »

techdmn wrote: post #304
lisper wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With good reason.

I like to jokingly argue that the primary difference between Democrats and Republicans is disagreement on whether it's more important to subsidize large corporations directly or through tax policy. In reality I think there is a lot of daylight between the parties on social issues that do not affect current power structures . Abortion, trans rights, women's rights, gay marriage, religion in public schools, etc: Tons o…

I'll resist the urge to combat some of your specific points and focus on the forest.

I think there's simply a difference between funds going towards foreign policy, and ones that basically deny you autonomy. America is highly individualistic, but that's also just human nature. Many will care more about their groceries increasing by $10 a month than a billion dollars going towards a war somewhere else.

Also helps that America hasn't experienced a war on its soil in almost 80 years now. Or technically 200 years since I don't think Hawaii was ratified yet. The idea barely registers as possible to happen.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#532

Post by rawgabbit »

macrocosmos wrote: post #170
readthenotes1 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look a little harder. The people living through the 1970s knew how bad he was and chose to put him out. He had bad staff, bad relations with the overwhelmingly Democratic Congress, and we got the Mayaguez, iran hostage, stagflation, and other troubles too many to list. He was a bad president, a good man, and a great ex-president.

Most people I’ve spoken to about Jimmy Carter who were alive at the time seem to say the same as you. I’ve heard that living in America at the time was depressing and embarrassing. I have a feeling a lot of the praise for the man is from people who weren’t even around when he was president but have been fed some story about how he was great. I see a lot of praise for him online yet it’s very hard to find from the lip…

I was a kid when Carter was president. In the late 70s, the US was undergoing a series of shocks. An oil crisis where many gas stations ran out of gas. High inflation and high unemployment. People were literally talking about the biblical end times. They saw Israel fighting for its life. They saw the Iran-Iraq war (the US supported Saddam Hussein as payback against the new Iran government).

Carter was a good man. But he seemed to have no answers for a people who were desperate for leadership like FDR’s during the Great Depression.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#533

Post by hackandthink »

settrans wrote: post #498
bhouston wrote: post #491

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No, it won't be. Israel doesn't want to grant citizenship to the 3 million Arabs who live there, the vast majority of whom would like to annihilate the state of Israel There is a plan for this though. The pressure is building in the West Bank with attempts to cut PA funding/banking and expanding settlements. Details: https://mecouncil.org/blog_posts/a-crisis-averted-in-palesti... https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/29/midd…

I don't see anything in those articles that describe a plan or even the framework of a policy to annex the territories. There just isn't a workable path forward to accomplish it. The Arabs who live there harbor irredentist fantasies to overthrow the Israeli government and replace it with Hamas or some other dictatorial organ, and as long as that is true, Israel has no desire to hand out citizenship to those people. O…

[flagged]

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#534

Post by mixmastamyk »

gamesbrainiac wrote: post #38
moomin wrote: post #22

Best President US has seen in modern times, the campaign that unseated him bordered on treason.

Is there any book or article that expounds on this further?

Sick's book was quite good, even though it's clear we may never have all the information:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Sick

October Surprise: America's Hostages in Iran and the Election of Ronald Reagan

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#535

Post by johnnyanmac »

Levitz wrote: post #354
JasserInicide wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Republicans have always been pro-immigrant because it's inherently pro-business. They just have to do a song and dance routine for the low IQ racist cohort of their constituency to make it seem like they're tough on it. Though I will say it's been rather amusing watching people act betrayed by Elon's thoughts on H1-B visa holders. Like, how did you idiots not see this coming? He's the richest person in the world for…

>Republicans have always been pro-immigrant because it's inherently pro-business. They just have to do a song and dance routine for the low IQ racist cohort of their constituency to make it seem like they're tough on it. It has consistently been about illegal immigration. You are calling people "low IQ" and "Idiots" and you, literally in this very post, show you are falling for the same thing they fell for.

>It has consistently been about illegal immigration.

A recent bill tighening on illegal immigration had bipartisan support in rejecting it.

Again, narrative vs. business reality. They love underpaying employees with no beneits or legal protections.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#536

Post by johnnyanmac »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #338
bdangubic wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that is because in america a large majority of people’s entire identity is tied to one of the two political parties. there are no liberals who believe is small government and state’s rights, no conservatives who believe in woman’s rights or that america would collapse without immigrants… for majority of people every single opinion and thought they have just magically lines up with one political party - maaaagic… henc…

Categorizing in terms of absolutes, such as "there are no liberals who ..." and "no conservatives who ...", is to engage in reductionism for the purpose of supporting a preconceived notion: ... for majority of people every single opinion and thought they have just magically lines up with one political party ... This is simply not true.

May have been a broad brush, but the spirit is true.

To be more exact: in the end the RNC/DNC comes down to votes in maybe 10 small states before candidates decide to drop out and stop wasting money on a losing battle. Those 2 candidates are what's on our ballot.

I'm in california and I don't think I ever had any say in the DNC because it's already said and done by that time from a bunch of swing states that may collectively have less represenatives than my state. There are some very good liberals I fully side with, but they don't get to be on that ballent.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#537

Post by klik99 »

I know a few people, one a good friend, who work in the Jimmy Carter Center in Atlanta - until health stopped him (and a bit afterwards) he was in there daily putting the work in. Despite if you agree with his views or methods I hope everyone can know he worked well into his 90s to leave the world a better place. I don’t believe any other president was as selfless as him. Rest in peace, he was a great man

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#538

Post by arrowsmith »

tptacek wrote: post #453
jmclnx wrote: post #20

Looking back, to me he was a much better president then people believed in the 80s. I believe if he got re-elected in 1980, the US would be in a much better place. One thing, it could be argued real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981 as opposed to where we are now, which is just watching the average probably blowing past 3C in around 70 years from now. For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. RIP, he…

Carter's party controlled the legislature for a half century roughly centering on his presidency; it's hard to see why his reelection would have drastically changed policy. Democratic hegemony at the time was strong enough that Republicans were said to be "in the wilderness", which I think might be the origin of that idiom with respect to national politics.

Idk about the US, but “wilderness” as a political idiom is at least as old as Churchill, who is said to have been in his “wilderness years” from 1929-39.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#539

Post by lotsofpulp »

efitz wrote: post #509
eru wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy catastrophic healthcare coverage, can't you?

Not by itself, not anymore, because of ACA. For most people, the most cost effective insurance is catastrophic major medical + self-pay for anything else. What passes for insurance now really isn’t “insurance” in the sense that completely expected, and even likely, events are covered. It’s more like paying for discount healthcare but has the major medical built in.

Catastrophic health insurance makes no sense as an insurance product since the probability of catastrophic health event costing hundreds of thousands of dollars is so high as one ages. Heart disease and cancer is a given, and that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to treat, and premature babies are in the millions.

US health insurance is a combination healthcare purchasing agent/second opinion/fraud detection/insurance/tax collector.

A large part of a premium is a tax due to the maximum age rating factor that limits the prices old people pay to 3x or less what young people pay. It is also a tax because the insurer cannot underwrite the insureds, except on the basis of age, tobacco use, and location.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

#540

Post by arrowsmith »

JadeNB wrote: post #159
khazhoux wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. Explain?

In case it helps to clarify, probably Ted Kennedy, not JFK.

It would have been difficult for JFK to sabotage anyone’s reelection in 1980, given that he died in 1963.
Post reply on HN