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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by frou_dh »

lukeasrodgers wrote: post #377
ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

I think initially "pro" actually meant "for professional users," but it's clearly now just a marketing term. As a professional user, I want at least a mixture of port options (hdmi, usb) and a keyboard that supports touch-typing, not some gimmicky band I'm going to have to look at to see what it's showing. I've been using macs for ~20 years but my next laptop will not be from Apple.

If we get serious, then it could be said that it's negligent for PCs claiming to be for Pro use not to use ECC memory.

ECC and Xeons aren't fringe exotic technology. Intel obviously has some kind of hang-up with their market segmentation though.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by mrgreenfur »

overcast wrote: post #326

Ugh. I don't know what to do here. I've been waiting for Mac updates for ages, and this is what we get. My 2008 Mac Pro is maxed out on upgrades, and has been on the fritz lately. I can't go forever on an 8+ year old machine. Especially one that is no longer "officially supported" by Apple, and now requires 3rd party patches to install Sierra and its updates. Microsoft's Surface presentation yesterday was VERY tempti…

I went hackintosh a few years ago and while it's got tons of it's own headaches, its a good way to get solid hardware that you can pick out yourself.

I won't pretend that I ever press 'install updates' without a few hours to spare and db backups ready.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by illuminati1911 »

rayiner wrote: post #259
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

It's just trendy to complain about everything Apple does although most likely 90% of the complainers will be getting these new macbooks anyway.

If they just push the specs up, increase battery life..."Apple isn't innovating anymore", "So what's new?", "It looks just like my old MBP" etc.

Now that they actually bring something innovative you'll get this kind of complains.

Now no matter if people liked this event or not I find it hard to believe anyone seriously though yesterdays MS event was any better. Overpriced useless last gen crap for insane price.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by nathas »

poorman wrote: post #542

16GB of RAM? Are they serious? I've got 64GB in my MacPro and I can tell you these electron apps (like Slack) are consistently using 20GB of RAM. https://twitter.com/NickPoorman/status/791715570718769153 Not to mention I use my esc key all day to switch Vim modes in Atom. Disappointed.

... You have what is really just a webpage in a desktop container using 24gb?

Wat.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ROFISH »

davesque wrote: post #263
ROFISH wrote: post #225

16GB RAM max, DP1.2 (so no 5k display support), worthless Touch Bar when I use my current MBP dual monitor with the lid closed. Pass. Sadly I really wanted something better since I'm on an old 2012 MBP that badly needs an upgrade but I'm not dropping $1500+ for something that doesn't support 32GB and 5k displays.

I'm a bit confused. I thought the event showcased a setup with two 5k displays attached to one 15" macbook pro.

Only if you buy specific Thunderbolt-supporting 5k displays. You can't get one off the shelf and have it "just work(tm)".

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Matachines »

rl3 wrote: post #223

There's a 13" MBP model that lacks Touch Bar, featuring normal function keys. Apple is using last year's Skylake processors (6th-generation), not Kaby Lake (7th-generation), even though some OEMs are starting to ship hardware with Kaby Lake right now. > Retina display >15.4-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display with IPS technology; 2880-by-1800 native resolution at 220 pixels per inch with support for millions of color…

The only problem with the non-Touch Pro is the lack of ports :/ Otherwise I'd get one right now.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

rcarmo wrote: post #419
rayiner wrote: post #259

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> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

Dude, I use a desktop. A Mac mini, in fact, which has been struggling for the latter half of the past 6 years. I'm seriously considering getting a PC instead, even though I've written http://taoofmac.com for 14 years. (I do happen to work for Microsoft, by the way, but would very much prefer to keep my home setup on a separate tech stack for the sake of keeping an open view. I'm now ogling the Skullcandy NUC and wond…

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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ChuckMcM »

Interesting, I really like the touch bar (see my comments about wanting to create something similar, if somewhat larger, in other responses) but the overall product leaves me flat. I get thinness in general but when is it thin enough? I certainly felt "if they just made it thinner" wasn't really something that would inspire me to upgrade. Now a cellular modem built in? Maybe. Doubling the battery life? Sure that would be pretty awesome. A clever way to turn it into much expanded "desktop" kind of experience? Sure that would have some interest (Macbooks have sucked at "docking" for a long time).

I think it looks great, and the design touches are top notch, but it doesn't seem to be an improved product than what it is replacing. I miss Steve Jobs keen insights into the way I used things or imagined I might use them. I always felt he was speaking to the issue of "what every you are trying to do, using this tool will make it easier/faster/more intuitive Etc." what I got from this Macbook event was "look how beautiful it is."

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