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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by OJFord »

massysett wrote: post #449
dguaraglia wrote: post #410

As a heavy Vim user, this might be my last Apple development machine. I can always remap Caps Lock to Esc, but years of muscle memory > a flashy feature I have little use for. There's nothing I'd pay extra for in this new machine: touchbar is a meh, biometric authentication has been around since ~2005, the hardware specs are finally catching up with what everyone else has been shipping for a couple years, the new key…

Linux is not bad. But nobody is making decent Linux hardware, and the instant you slap Linux onto a Windows machine, battery life plummets. My days buying Windows machines and struggling to get Linux on them are over. I'd rather buy a Mac and get a Unix I can use without having to install it. Is anyone actually selling a decent preinstalled Linux laptop? If I really wanted to use Linux I would rather buy a Windows la…

    > the instant you slap Linux onto a Windows machine, 
    > battery life plummets
Yep. I ran Arch on my MBA for a while, thought I might have more luck than Windows machines (since it's easier to find people doing the same thing) but driver support is meh.

I'm perfectly happy to configure things - it's why I don't really want to be on macOS, and oh boy do I miss i3wm - but as soon as I was looking up recommendations for configuring my CPU fan and power management on obscure blog posts, I gave up on it.

I think there's definitely a market for a Linux developer laptop that's a single awesome machine, that then makes a great single target for the kind of app support seen on macOS.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by overcast »

gm-conspiracy wrote: post #505
overcast wrote: post #326

Ugh. I don't know what to do here. I've been waiting for Mac updates for ages, and this is what we get. My 2008 Mac Pro is maxed out on upgrades, and has been on the fritz lately. I can't go forever on an 8+ year old machine. Especially one that is no longer "officially supported" by Apple, and now requires 3rd party patches to install Sierra and its updates. Microsoft's Surface presentation yesterday was VERY tempti…

Hackintosh?

Considered it, and I've built PC's since my very first one. Even have a PC dedicated for gaming. I just don't want to deal with it for my primary work space machine. Same philosophy with phone, and the reason I have an iPhone. I don't want to dick around with it.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by K0SM0S »

rcarmo wrote: post #419
rayiner wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

Dude, I use a desktop. A Mac mini, in fact, which has been struggling for the latter half of the past 6 years. I'm seriously considering getting a PC instead, even though I've written http://taoofmac.com for 14 years. (I do happen to work for Microsoft, by the way, but would very much prefer to keep my home setup on a separate tech stack for the sake of keeping an open view. I'm now ogling the Skullcandy NUC and wond…

I commend your platform agnosticism. A sane way to approach paradigm shifts in computing, imho. Which I personally extend to Android/iOS.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ftrflyr »

lukeholder wrote: post #227
ftrflyr wrote: post #124

Is Apple completely out of touch with reality? The Mac Book Pro starts with 256GB? Same processor as my current 13in MBP? Disappointed.

It's not the same processor at all though?

I stand corrected on the processor bit - I overlooked the "Dual." I still stand by what I said about storage.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> Also, Panos Panay sounds like a genuine, authentic, passionate and knowledgeable

He was definitely the best part of the production. They should use him for a lot more in the future.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by yuhong »

crooked-v wrote: post #328
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

The overlap between the Macbook, Macbook Air, and old and new Macbook Pro lines now is painfully weird. https://gist.github.com/icopp/29f225279a39ba9e3ea0d1f596e97c... I'm getting serious shades of "IBM clone vendor throwing darts at a board to try to appeal to every possible price point" instead of coherent product lines here.

I was wondering what would happen if Intel bought Compaq back in 1991 (when Rod Canion and Jim Harris was still at Compaq) for a while now. Intel has a high profit margin too, and Compaq had higher profit margin back in 1991. Even back in the late 1990s laptops still had a higher profit margin, and laptop theft was more common in these days. Anyone remember the Apple price increases in 1988? Particularly for the Mac II it was worse.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ROFISH »

djrogers wrote: post #514
ROFISH wrote: post #225

16GB RAM max, DP1.2 (so no 5k display support), worthless Touch Bar when I use my current MBP dual monitor with the lid closed. Pass. Sadly I really wanted something better since I'm on an old 2012 MBP that badly needs an upgrade but I'm not dropping $1500+ for something that doesn't support 32GB and 5k displays.

Not only does it have 5k display support, but it supports two of them in addition to the internal display: -- Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display at millions of colors and: Up to two displays with 5120-by-2880 resolution at 60Hz at over a billion colors Up to four displays with 4096-by-2304 resolution at 60Hz at over a billion colors -- [1] http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/

Only if you buy specific Thunderbolt supporting 5k displays. If you already own one that only does DP1.4 or some other cable, it won't work. :/

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by bitmapbrother »

npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

>Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday

Hmmm, you make it sound as if the Microsoft event was a home run - it wasn't. The Surface Studio was interesting, but it's clearly aimed for graphic professionals and its stratospheric pricing put it out of reach for a lot of people. As for the Surface Book, well, considering all of the issues they've had with the previous version I'm not sure people will be so inclined to even upgrade. And let's not even get into the ridiculous pricing for the Surface Book.

>Also, Panos Panay sounds like a genuine, authentic, passionate

You're right about that one. I've never seen anyone so passionate about creating documents and highlighting them.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by jmspring »

Apple has failed at cloud. They have fired their car group. Software-wise, they want MacOS to be as restrictive (I mean featureful) as iOS. Underwhelming hardware updates -- I work for Microsoft and was waiting on upgrading to a new MBP...

I'm an apple household...

Apple 2016 is Nokia 2007.

No innovation, no inspiration.

A strong rival could bury them -- though it will take $$. I'm not seeing how Apple buys them self out of this hole.

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