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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by elsonrodriguez »

carlmcqueen wrote: post #35
thsowers wrote: post #7

Wish there was an option to buy a 15 inch with no touch bar. I cannot find any suitable use for it on my current model, and I often hit items inadvertently due to the lack of tactile feedback

while software driven, there is a program you can get called Haptic Touch Bar, which vibrates when you hit the touchbar buttons. Not perfect, but at least sort of helpful. The main point, let me have a nice version without the touchbar is shared.

Just tried this. Makes the touch bar much more usable.

This makes me confident they'll add haptic feedback in the next Macbook.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by smnplk »

bayareanative wrote: post #442
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

Lenovo T480 hackintosh here.

Wondering what the battery life is like compared to running linux on your hackintosh ? :D

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by tptacek »

rayiner wrote: post #411
minikites wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The UI is totally schizoid Kinda like how iTunes was brushed metal forever while the Finder was Aqua and some apps roll their own UI to mimic Aqua? It's not like either Apple or Microsoft produce consistent applications, let alone the lack of control they have over third party developers. There is also Carbon vs. Cocoa, where different programs get different services "for free" from the operating system (e.g. spell…

Giving a couple of decade-old examples doesn’t show that Apple is “just as guilty.” Apple has two toolkits: Carbon, a legacy framework for transitioning from MacOS classic, and Cocoa. Microsoft has releases a new toolkit/look-and-feel basically every other year. (Win32, WPF, Metro, UWP, etc.) And unlike Carbon, which is depreciated, Win32 is in active use by new apps and keeps getting new features.

I thought they'd more than deprecated it, and that Carbon apps won't run anymore on Mojave. They declined to do a 32-64 port all the way back in Mountain Lion.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by sbov »

jteppinette wrote: post #168
HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #64

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It's probably time to start banging the ThinkPad drum again, but first they need to put their RAM back in sockets.

Disclaimer: work for Apple but about 1000 miles away from hardware The MacBook touch pads are leagues above all the competition. It’s the number one thing that keeps me away from my think pads.

Yep. I switched from a Macbook Pro and I definitely miss the touch pad.

But I don't miss the keyboard. Or the touchbar. Or the hotkey layout. Or the operating system. Or not being able to upgrade my hard drive when I needed to.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by pier25 »

ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

> If you need a Mac, consider a desktop version (with a SSD!), or stick with the 2015 or older MacBooks.

This is what I did.

I bought a 15'' 2015 model the day after the 2016 models were announced. I didn't even know about the keyboard problems, but the touchbar, the lack of ports, the price, and the shallow key travel were deal breakers for me.

I used it for about a year but the integrated GPU and the 4th gen CPU ran too hot. At the time I lived in Cancún so quite hot, and the fan noise was becoming annoying even when doing skype calls and such. Also running it on my lap was uncomfortable.

So at the start of 2018 I sold the MBP and got a 5K iMac with SSD since I really didn't need the portability anymore. Best Mac I've ever owned.

I have an old 2014 13'' MBP laying around which I use in the rare occasions I'm away from my iMac.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by graeme »

stephenr wrote: post #516
dcosson wrote: post #485

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I guess I'm the only one that thinks USB-C is actually better? The biggest win is that now I can use a single dongle for power, displayport to my monitor, and connection to a USB hub. So if I take my laptop home or into a meeting room, when I get back to my desk it's just a single thing to plug in now instead of 3+ separate cables. And since this stuff is all standardized now and there's no longer anything Apple prop…

It’s not just you. I don’t get the whining about lack of USB type-a ports or the sd card slot and hdmi port. One, ONE $30 adapter gives you all of those and you have 3 TB3 ports still to use, AND it will read more memory card formats. Edit: AND it will have more USB-A ports than the old MBP had! I saw a manufacturer a while ago had a little magnetic adapter for a USB-c power port, too. Oh and the common complaint abo…

>One, ONE $30 adapter gives you all of those

That's not how TB3 works though. Those cheap dongles don't necessarily pass through correctly, and this can lead to all manner of problems when you have sensitive equipment connected. Lots of reports of audio issues on USB C Macs when using external dongles, for example.

The actual TB3 hubs cost $150 minimum iirc.

This may not cause trouble in your own use case, but it's definitely potential cause for concern for people that need a lot of I/O

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by 0xADEADBEE »

ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

Not seeing anyone else mention this problem so perhaps I'm an edge case but I have a 3 month old Macbook Pro (work supplied, fortunately) and I'm getting double presses on certain keys. I've managed to ameliorate it a bit with software [0] but it's still a disgrace that this is happening on a $4K machine.

[0] - https://unshaky.nestederror.com/

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by viraptor »

jlarocco wrote: post #468
viraptor wrote: post #349

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Thinkpad doesn't say much. What series? Thinkpads range from supermarket offer bin to mobile workstations like P1.

It's a P52s. The fact that it matters is part of the problem. All of the Apple laptops feel solid and well put together.

They have a price point where they can be made solid and well put together. Lenovo also sells cheap laptops of lower quality. Not sure why that's a problem. Or do you think people shouldn't be given cheaper options?
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