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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Just leaving this here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

I never understood why some people get so fixated on one event in 1953, as if nothing else mattered after that. Sure, it had a nontrivial effect. But it also happened in a time when Stalin and Churchill were still alive, there were 6 billion people fewer on the planet and the first antibiotics and transistors barely entered production. Korea was poorer than Ghana etc. It is 2026, three generations have passed, and no…

The current Ayatollah bullshit cannot be explained without that coup d'état. People flocked to the religious zealots because the alternative was a Western satrap.

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#532

Iran and North Korea are evidence that with modern technology, and a ruthless enough autocracy, there is possibly no way out from under it. Technological progress only makes this problem worse. It should highlight the urgency for anybody who loves freedom, human rights, and democracy, to fight the swing towards authoritarianism in the 'free world', before there is no way back.

My cynical take is that this is the reason we're selling so many GPUs to certain foreign governments. Sure, AI is great for vibe coding and making cat videos but it's also amazing for tracking individual sentiment, influencing opinion on social media, creating fake news, and detecting threat networks. "Smart cities" are also Panopticons.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

#533

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There are hundreds of videos of tower blocks being bombed, where people are standing a distance away with cameras set up, ready and waiting, because they’ve been warned and evacuated. These are not the actions of an army trying to target civilians.

No amount of warning will save children from starving if the access roads and relief convoys are blocked. I'm quite frankly quite appalled at the amount of apologists in this thread. Warning civilians is not an excuse to genocide them.

No war is good, and starting an urban war you are obviously going to lose, and executing it over two years among an incredibly dense population is barbaric.

I'm quite frankly quite appalled at the amount of apologists in this thread.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

#534

Some mainstream coverage of this, at last. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/i...

I’m confused by the “at last”, it’s been consistently covered on The Guardian:

iran site:theguardian.com

There is a narrative that has been floating around and it seems like a Russian psyop designed to sow discord (not accusing you of being a bot personally), “the lefties are friends with Iran and don’t complain about their attrocities”, which is objectively false.

Indeed if you look at independent aggregators the latest article on Iran is more “left leaning” reported: https://ground.news/article/at-least-6-126-people-killed-in-...

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

#535

An iranian expat here. I have been following the news closely, mostly getting my data from my friends in Iran before the internet shutdown and after it was (sort of) lifted. The death toll is way above this number, you have to consider the fact that Iran is a big country with many small cities, and in my city alone (which is very small and rarely has any protest going on) many people have died (i don’t have the exact…

Don't know about who exactly are the 'leftists' you are referring to but here's my take : Palestine : Dont send bombs. Send Aid. Lift blockade so Palestinians dont suffer. Iran : Dont send bombs. Send Aid. Lift sanctions so Iranian people dont suffer. Interested to hear your take regarding the same.

And why should liberal countries trade with genocidal regimes, so that they don't kill their own people? Is that seriously what you're proposing - appease the bully?

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

#536

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Lifting sanctions just helps the mullahs flex their power on Iranian civilians. Lifted sanctions means more suffering for Iranian people and people abroad suffering from Iran-funded terrorist groups.

This is such an absurd analysis that it is bewildering anyone would post it.

Lifting the sanctions doesn't suddenly make their government, regulation or economy stable. Their biggest companies are all government-owned and famously corrupt and mismanaged.

This is criticism given from most of the region when the topic of lifting sanctions comes up. Nothing I said is novel or extreme.

In fact, we have direct evidence of what happens when those sanctions are lifted from when it was done under the Biden administration. They expanded their nuclear program and expanded funding to their regional proxies to carry out terror campaigns. The Houthis attacked global shipping lines and October 7th happened. That's not theoretical.

Btw, I'm of Iranian descent.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

#537

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I think when westerners like myself notice the disparity in response amongst western progressives between the Palestinian and Iranian situations, they're talking more from a social lens than the geopolitical one. A lot of my peers have been incredibly active on social media the last couple years supporting Palestinians. They've been mostly completely silent on Iran, the imbalance is notable.

Again, what am I supposed to do about it? If one lives in one of most western countries, one’s government has sanctioned Iran to the gills. Even the government can do little more, except engage in war. Compare this to Palestine, where direct action and protest is much more tangibly impactful.

European governments could expel Iranian ambassadors as a start.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

#539
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Legitimate question - why am I not seeing this in the news? This is horrifying but where is the coverage?

What news are you reading? This is featured in virtually every Western media outlet. Maybe it's not so prominent in public discourse because it's sharing screentime with ICE's raids and NATO's rapid collapse. There is also the issue of not being easy to confirm anything out of Iran right now, which is certainly concerning.

The word "iran" is currently mentioned exactly zero times on https://nytimes.com. Plenty of baking tips though.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

#540
post #518

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What news are you reading? This is featured in virtually every Western media outlet. Maybe it's not so prominent in public discourse because it's sharing screentime with ICE's raids and NATO's rapid collapse. There is also the issue of not being easy to confirm anything out of Iran right now, which is certainly concerning.

The NYT's top story is still focused on the killing of a single protestor in Minneapolis. They aren't highlighting Iran because a massacre of this scale will be seen as justifying Trump's imminent strike on Iran, and leftists are gearing up to protest that, just as they did the Maduro operation

You seem to imply that bombing Iran to the ground is a good outcome.
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