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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#222The source (Iran International) is backed by Saudi money and has a bias to dunk on Iran. That said, I'm sure the death count numbers from the Rasht Massacre are staggeringly higher than the initial tallies of 2-5k.
There are other sources, like this: https://time.com/7357635/more-than-30000-killed-in-iran-say-...
Which also refer to unnamed sources and "U.S.-based Human Rights Activists News Agency"(read CIA)
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#223That number would inevitably lead to tons of videos with piles of corpses and cities covered with dead.
Like ones that appear when west-backed Julani killed Alawites. But there is almost no such content - only rumors, unnamed sources and documents no one bother to check.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Do you mean doesn’t wear a headscarf?
Depends on what you want to hear. The Iranian family in my neighborhood whose father was a doctor fled after Islamist police cut their daughter to pieces in their own home for dressing inappropriately. That's the sort of non headscarf wearing Iranian elite you'll find with an opinion critical of the current regime. I don't know about ostentatious clothing.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#225That's crazy. That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.
I've read a ton of philosophy and something I don't really understand is that one nation killing another is more immoral than when a nation does this to their own domestic population. Sure you will get some nay-sayers who say 'a life is a life', if moral particles existed, they might be correct. But for some reason, humanity doesn't seem to care as much. What makes intra-state politics more acceptable to use violence…
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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#226What happened to Trump threatening to invade? This is the one situation that intervention is called for.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#227That number would inevitably lead to tons of videos with piles of corpses and cities covered with dead. Like ones that appear when west-backed Julani killed Alawites. But there is almost no such content - only rumors, unnamed sources and documents no one bother to check.
Unfortunately those videos exist. There are videos of relatives walking for hours from body bag to body bag to find the remains of their lost ones. There are videos of people with heavy machine guns shooting indiscriminately into peaceful protests. There are videos of executions. Everything has been recorded.
There is a reason why the Iranian government cannot activate internet and phones anymore. Once people can communicate again, they will count and document the true scale of events. Right now, it seems the Iranian government would rather give up on internet and telephones altogether than having anyone find out, which tells you just about how bad the situation is.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#228What happened to Trump threatening to invade? This is the one situation that intervention is called for.
No situation justifies external interference, especially not by the US, which has done more than its fair share of invading and then just making things worse for everyone, like in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#229That's crazy. That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.
Unfortunately I would not be surprised if the real death toll is even higher. I have first-hand information. We are talking about indiscriminate shooting with heavy machine guns into peaceful protests, happening in every city of the country. The rule of law has completely broken down. The wounded avoid hospitals because they are afraid of getting killed there.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#23036,500 seems awfully high. Did they just stand there? Those are numbers you'd see in a war, not a 2-day crackdown on protestors with small arms.