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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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That's a really good question for all those ICE and DHS agents. I suspect a partial answer might be that many are not in their right minds, are under trained, and over motivated by bonus payments and past divorces.

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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You know how the second amendment is about protecting Americans from tyrannical governments, and how a few dozen schools being shot ip each year is a small price to pay? Funny how it doesn’t work in reality.

2A is a historical relic of the settler colonial era when communities had to create their own security forces. It's strongest proponents today are those who want to create their own laws and have private militias to enforce it, in obvious contravention of state and federal laws which are decided through a democratic process with checks and balances (elections, legislatures and independent judiciaries).

The present federal government has co-opted the militia strategy and filled its ranks with the 2A absolutists, and given them a budget that rivals most countries' militaries.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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> At a news conference, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara said the man who was shot was a 37-year-old white man with no serious criminal history and a record that showed some parking tickets. Law enforcement sources said Saturday their records show Pretti had no serious criminal history. > O'Hara said the man was a “lawful gun owner” with a permit. Records show that Pretti attended the University of Minnesota. St…

The bargain with law enforcement has always been that ostensibly if you comply, they will take you in peacefully. For obvious reasons, this is highly advantageous to both parties. It seems like a foolish choice for them to reneg on this. They are essentially signaling that you are a trapped rat with no way out.

> They are essentially signaling that you are a trapped rat with no way out.

It makes sense if making you feel like a trapped rat is the goal.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Why is the focus on Minneapolis? Is it really the training ground for ICE? Edit: "Minnesota has the largest Somali population in the US, according to NBC. The community has been subject to widespread criticism from Mr Trump, who has called them "garbage"."

> Why is the focus on Minneapolis? Is it really the training ground for ICE? Somalis and Ilhan Omar. Was talking to a Unitarian Universalist minister recently. He says his life is pretty much dealing with immigration issues for the past year. He said there is considerable 'chatter' that the next significant target will be Maine because there is a large-ish Somali community there. I have no idea how reliable that chat…

> the next significant target will be Maine because there is a large-ish Somali community there.

That started a few days ago.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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>Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> "interesting new phenomenon" Pardon me, but summary executions in the United States taking place in broad daylight, with seeming impunity, is very much a new and novel phenomenon, and incredibly interesting to many of us. These are events of historic significance.

I guess the novel part is that it happens to white people now. Used to happen a lot to black people, less so after mobile phone cameras but still happened.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Wow, that's some deep passive-aggressive victim blaming right there.

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38687832>

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46569057>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Asking_Questions>

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Why is this being hidden off of the main HN pages? There are clearly enough points for it to be significantly up weighted. I don’t understand the censorship.

Because many HN readers flag anything that they deem to be “politics”

In the eyes of some in leadership, tech workers should be apolitical worker drones. Weighing in on politics is for people like David Sacks, Marc Andreesen, Elon Musk.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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That's a really good question for all those ICE and DHS agents. I suspect a partial answer might be that many are not in their right minds, are under trained, and over motivated by bonus payments and past divorces.

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It is our absolute right to do so and if we don't assert our rights we lose them.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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> At a news conference, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara said the man who was shot was a 37-year-old white man with no serious criminal history and a record that showed some parking tickets. Law enforcement sources said Saturday their records show Pretti had no serious criminal history. > O'Hara said the man was a “lawful gun owner” with a permit. Records show that Pretti attended the University of Minnesota. St…

Possessing a fire arm and having an encounter with law enforcement in the united states has long been a death sentence. You can find a multitude of videos online of cops doing stuff like getting the wrong address and beating on someones door and when that person opens the door with a gun in their hand and then the cops open fire, happens all the time.

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