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Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by augment_me »

mock-possum wrote: post #357
jmuguy wrote: post #332

This is essentially what teachers are dealing with every day, across the majority of their students, for every subject where its even remotely possible to use AI.

Why not deal with it the same way teachers have always felt with students breaking the rules?

Because a teachers job is to make sure N% of the class passes as much as it is to teach. If you fail have the class, you have failed as a teacher because the administration will get parents coming in. If you force your class to do assignments by hand, especially in younger grades, more will fail, and you will be blamed and fired.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by MangoToupe »

Ralfp wrote: post #93
listic wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was it with em dash?

People usually don't type embdash, just use regular dash (minus sign) they have already on the keyboard. ChatGPT uses emdash instead.

I've been typing "—" since middle school 25 years ago. It's trivial on a mac and always has been (at least since OSX, not sure about classic). Some folks are just too narrow-minded to give others the benefit of the doubt.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by jiggawatts »

Ralfp wrote: post #93
listic wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was it with em dash?

People usually don't type embdash, just use regular dash (minus sign) they have already on the keyboard. ChatGPT uses emdash instead.

iDevices (and maybe MacOS too?) correct various dashes to the Unicode equivalents. Double dash seems to get converted to em-dash automatically.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by jiggawatts »

pjmlp wrote: post #37
jsheard wrote: post #26

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I think the JS/Node scene was the pioneer in spamming emojis absolutely everywhere, well before AI. Maybe that's where the models picked it up from.

I really hate all those CLI applications and terminal configurations that look like circus came to town.

It's the same thing as naming your servers Titan and Cerberus, using garish RGB LEDs on every computer part (in a glass case of course), and having a keyboard that looks like a disco.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by globular-toast »

stahorn wrote: post #14
misnome wrote: post #6

I wonder where the balance of “Actual time saved for me” vs “Everyone else's time wasted” lies in this technological “revolution”.

You're doing it wrong: You should just feed other peoples AI-generated responses into your own AI tools and let the tool answer for you! The loop is then closed, no human time wasted, and the only effect is wasted energy to run the AI tools. It's the perfect business model to turn energy into money.

I invented a new technique that cuts down on the AI bill. I call it "just send me the prompt": https://blog.gpkb.org/posts/just-send-me-the-prompt/

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by jiggawatts »

tantivy wrote: post #405
elzbardico wrote: post #230

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I have a long-running interest in NLP, LLMs basically solved or almost solved a lot of NLP problems. The usefulness of LLMs for me, in the end, is their ability to execute classic NLP tasks, so I can incorporate a call for them in programs to do useful stuff that would be hard to do otherwise when dealing with natural language. But, a lot of times, people try to make LLMs do things that they can only simulate doing,…

I once tasked an LLM with correcting a badly-OCR'd text, and it went beast mode on that. Like setting an animal finally free in its habitat. But that kind of work won't propel a stock valuation :(

It's mind-blowing the level of correction a modern LLM can achieve. I had to recover an OCR text that had about 30% of the characters incorrect. The result was 99.9% correct, with just the odd confusion whenever the suffix of a word could be interpreted either way and it picked one at random.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by silverliver »

Sharlin wrote: post #131
dansmith1919 wrote: post #10

Crazy how he doubled down by just pasting badger's answer into Chat and submitting the (hilariously obvious AI) reply: > Thanks for the quick review. You’re right — my attached PoC does not exercise libcurl and therefore does not demonstrate a cURL bug. I retract the cookie overflow claim and apologize for the noise. Please close this report as invalid. If helpful, I can follow up separately with a minimal C reproduc…

Unfortunately that seems to be the norm now – people literally reduce themselves to a copy-paste mechanism.

Ha! We've become the robots!

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by jiggawatts »

jmuguy wrote: post #332

This is essentially what teachers are dealing with every day, across the majority of their students, for every subject where its even remotely possible to use AI.

Education as a profession will have to change. Homework is pointless. Verbal presentations will have to become the new norm, or all written answers must be in the confines of the classroom... with pen and paper. Etc...

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by account42 »

Sharlin wrote: post #131
dansmith1919 wrote: post #10

Crazy how he doubled down by just pasting badger's answer into Chat and submitting the (hilariously obvious AI) reply: > Thanks for the quick review. You’re right — my attached PoC does not exercise libcurl and therefore does not demonstrate a cURL bug. I retract the cookie overflow claim and apologize for the noise. Please close this report as invalid. If helpful, I can follow up separately with a minimal C reproduc…

Unfortunately that seems to be the norm now – people literally reduce themselves to a copy-paste mechanism.

I like the term "echoborg" for those people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echoborg

> An echoborg is a person whose words and actions are determined, in whole or in part, by an artificial intelligence (AI).

I've seen people who can barely manage to think on their own anymore and pull out their phone to ask it even relatively basic questions. Seems almost like an addiction for some.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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Post by watwut »

jmuguy wrote: post #362
mock-possum wrote: post #357

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Why not deal with it the same way teachers have always felt with students breaking the rules?

Wife is a high school history teacher - she would have to flunk 75% of her students. That is after proving they used AI, which would be extremely time consuming. Its very demoralizing for her, she has to spend a lot of time reading written essays generated by AI. I think given time educators will adapt. Unless they get burnt out first. She could also just not give a shit and they let go on to be some college professo…

> Its very demoralizing for her, she has to spend a lot of time reading written essays generated by AI.

I think that obvious solution is for them to write those essays in school.

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