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Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by vengefulduck »

RAM-bunctious wrote: post #526
deadbyte wrote: post #403

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I hope that Photopea (browser-based Photoshop) can gain traction to break that dependency.

I know the evidence is that plenty of people are totally happy with applications running in a browser -- Office Online, Google Sheets, etc. are compelling evidence -- but I strongly prefer dedicated and native applications for something I'll be spending a lot of time using. I'm not even necessarily blaming this on the performance difference, although that is a pertinent topic, but just the mental structure of somethi…

Installable web apps would give you a workaround for that wouldn’t it?

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by mdhen »

ChatGTP wrote: post #387
mdhen wrote: post #335

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> Personally Fedora or NixOS are just so superior I don't know why anyone bothers with anything else. The AUR.

Arch is also freaking awesome too!

Yeah I didn't fall in love with Linux until I got to arch. It's fantastic.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by ehnto »

IshKebab wrote: post #492
ehnto wrote: post #267

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It is a little funny that I can't tell if this comment is pro or against desktop Linux.

Could be both tbh. There are definitely ways in which Linux is better - no ads ( cough Microsoft ) or artificial restrictions (e.g. recording desktop audio cough Apple ). But in the most important ways - software availability and reliability - it is much worse.

Reliability for sure, though it has gotten better. You could argue that availability is better because it's all free, but I see what you are saying. Often enough I can't use a program natively on Linux.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by rwiggins »

pjmlp wrote: post #448
rwiggins wrote: post #231

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It made me switch, anyway, recently - specifically another one of those "Oh, let's finish setting up your computer" (i.e., try to trick you into trying Edge again, probably, or set up a "Microsoft" account) with my only options being "Remind me later" or "OK" was the straw that broke the camel's back. That said, I'm far from your typical desktop user. I'm vaguely Linux sysadmin adjacent, and I ran Linux as my primary…

By emulating Windows, while failing to attract anyone targeting POSIX platforms to port their games into GNU/Linux, not even Android.

Is this where I'm supposed to say Wine Is Not an Emulator? ;-)

Jokes aside, totally right, and unfortunately, in my experience it's often a better experience to run the Windows port under Wine than it is to use the native version. e.g. the native version of Tyranny is just a black box for me, but the Wine version works pretty flawlessly.

I think userspace is just too unstable, and game companies probably don't want a forever-ongoing maintenance cost just to keep their old games running.

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Post by Phileosopher »

JohnFen wrote: post #457
Luctct wrote: post #445

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People aren't forced, they choose it. They are clueless about technology and don't trust anything that may look like a dark horse. They want reassurance. It's not just the "enterprise" or corporate world. Home users have that mentality. Mac computers cost an arm and a leg and people still pay for it because the advertising machine has hammered it into the heads that "it just works." Most people only trust big brands.…

> People aren't forced, they choose it. I'm forced to use it at work. :(

I share that sentiment.

One important reality, though, is that "forced" is a sticky word here. Anyone sufficiently anti-FAANG and tech-savvy enough will find a workaround, so the constraints are far less than most dominant forces across the lens of history.

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Post by self_awareness »

pjerem wrote: post #268
zirgs wrote: post #213

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SteamOS is being optimised for the "casual" user. SteamDeck is the best handheld console at the moment.

To be fair, SteamOS is just a barely customized Arch Linux. All the UX work is being done in the steam client itself and is not exclusive to the Steam Deck. In fact, the SteamOS ui is now available 1:1 in the good old PC Steam client, replacing the old Big Picture mode. The only thing that doesn’t comes directly with Steam is Gamescope (but you can install it yourself easily). Other than that, the SteamOS is just an…

And the SteamOS UI doesn't have the same game controller configuration options as the old Big Picture mode had. That is a good example of "dumbification" of the UI in order to make things cheaper.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta/discussion...

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by tekknik »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #49

I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

It’s interesting to me that your top comment today when I made this same statement years ago and got downvoted. yet nothing has changed. oh well.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by pjmlp »

ChatGTP wrote: post #527
pjmlp wrote: post #449

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Because it mostly works with proprietary drivers without any religious issues.

Canonical has it's own religion though, so you're trading one problem for another.

As long at it isn't the FOSS one about OS purity.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by herewulf »

sitzkrieg wrote: post #472
hparadiz wrote: post #352

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So true. If you get a System76 laptop you can get some really amazing hardware and make sure to never pay the Windows license fee.

i dunno. i work on completely cross platform things and use a system76 laptop and the experience is still pretty garbage. the real problem is the linux userspace. its a huge arbitrary mess that is made worse by the insane number of packages that have to work together for a remotely usable desktop experience. it's possible of course, but invariably breaks, especially if you need to install any single third party thing…

Sounds like the problems you describe would be fixed by Guix or Nix. You should give one of those a try, or even use them on your existing distro!

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by pjmlp »

vengefulduck wrote: post #531
RAM-bunctious wrote: post #526

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I know the evidence is that plenty of people are totally happy with applications running in a browser -- Office Online, Google Sheets, etc. are compelling evidence -- but I strongly prefer dedicated and native applications for something I'll be spending a lot of time using. I'm not even necessarily blaming this on the performance difference, although that is a pertinent topic, but just the mental structure of somethi…

Installable web apps would give you a workaround for that wouldn’t it?

They are still bound by the constraints of the Web.

For example WebGL 2.0 (2009 hardware), WebGPU (2015 hardware), any GPU capabilities after 2015? You ain't going to get them.

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