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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#522An iranian expat here. I have been following the news closely, mostly getting my data from my friends in Iran before the internet shutdown and after it was (sort of) lifted. The death toll is way above this number, you have to consider the fact that Iran is a big country with many small cities, and in my city alone (which is very small and rarely has any protest going on) many people have died (i don’t have the exact…
Do you believe and call on the United States to bomb Iran. Which is the only real offer on the table. This created absolute hell in Syria, Libya and other nations. Democracy was certainly not delivered. Are you calling for the US to bomb Iran? Or are you against that?
Iran is nothing like Syria or Libya.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#523Legitimate question - why am I not seeing this in the news? This is horrifying but where is the coverage?
What news are you reading? This is featured in virtually every Western media outlet. Maybe it's not so prominent in public discourse because it's sharing screentime with ICE's raids and NATO's rapid collapse. There is also the issue of not being easy to confirm anything out of Iran right now, which is certainly concerning.
The NYT's top story is still focused on the killing of a single protestor in Minneapolis. They aren't highlighting Iran because a massacre of this scale will be seen as justifying Trump's imminent strike on Iran, and leftists are gearing up to protest that, just as they did the Maduro operation
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#524An iranian expat here. I have been following the news closely, mostly getting my data from my friends in Iran before the internet shutdown and after it was (sort of) lifted. The death toll is way above this number, you have to consider the fact that Iran is a big country with many small cities, and in my city alone (which is very small and rarely has any protest going on) many people have died (i don’t have the exact…
I disagree. There are deeper aspects in this tragedy. I don't want to be called "leftist" because I don't want to belong to any tribe. But I do embrace a lot of the humanist ideals of the so called "progressives" and I think they might have some moral ground in here. But feel free to call me whatever you want. In my perspective, the oppression in Iran is different from what is going on in Gaza. It is more like what h…
> Zionism is a racist project from one ethnicity against other
Wait till you learn about the people they are fighting....
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#525I really don’t understand why in the West there is nobody in the streets to protest but there was so many people for Palestine… Where are the people?
I don't remember my government sending bombs to the Ayatollah so they can keep carpe-bombing Tehran.
Protests serve to force your government to take action. i honestly at this point don't see what could mine to to stop this. Given the sanctions are not working, the only option to change Iran is maybe a direct intervention like Syria. And that sure worked great.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#526An iranian expat here. I have been following the news closely, mostly getting my data from my friends in Iran before the internet shutdown and after it was (sort of) lifted. The death toll is way above this number, you have to consider the fact that Iran is a big country with many small cities, and in my city alone (which is very small and rarely has any protest going on) many people have died (i don’t have the exact…
Do you believe and call on the United States to bomb Iran. Which is the only real offer on the table. This created absolute hell in Syria, Libya and other nations. Democracy was certainly not delivered. Are you calling for the US to bomb Iran? Or are you against that?
Syria was an absolute hell under Assad for dissidents, can't blame America for that. Iraq and Libya maybe, though Saddam and Gaddafi weren't exactly great leaders to their people either.
Anyway, IMO the thing about Iran is that it's mostly Shia, and the population isn't that religious, especially not in cities. Unlike Syria, Iraq and Libya of the past, they aren't ruled by a secular dictatorship, but religious extremists. So, while US intervention in Iraq, Libya and so on created space for religious extremists to rise, I think getting rid of Iranian government could actually do the opposite - give a chance for secular opposition to rise.
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#527Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s very strange to go “why isn’t the left doing anything about this conflict when they cared so much about Palestine?” My government doesn’t fund Iran.
I think when westerners like myself notice the disparity in response amongst western progressives between the Palestinian and Iranian situations, they're talking more from a social lens than the geopolitical one. A lot of my peers have been incredibly active on social media the last couple years supporting Palestinians. They've been mostly completely silent on Iran, the imbalance is notable.
I think the biggest difference is simple the fact that Israel has much closer ties with the US. The foreign policy of the USA has been the carrot and stick model for a long time and it seems Israel always gets the carrot on the back of national security. Iran, we have little to no relations with so there isn't anything the USA can to do excise power without serious military action
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#528Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one who is sane is saying that. IDF is saying – we killed 40.000 combatants who were hiding in ciivilan infrastructure, so unfortunately 1:1 civilian deaths happened, becaue of the terrorist urban warfare tactics hamas and palestinian islamic jihad are using.
> becaue of the terrorist urban warfare tactics hamas and palestinian islamic jihad are using This is ridiculous. I don't want to be a Hamas apologist; they're certainly brutally cynical enough to use civilians as shields, but in the case of Gaza, what else would you expect them to do? Urban areas are strong defensive structures, and 75% of Gaza is urban. Where else would you expect them to fight? It would be unreali…
So they started a war they knew would cause mass death to their civilian population. How is that not the same thing?
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#529Just leaving this here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
Whenever I see mentions of the protesters asking for the Sha to come back, I can't but to worry for the future of Iran even if the protests succeed.
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#530Earlier quoted context omitted.
With the amount of sanctions against Iran right now we could say that Iran is being starved as well, but we can't blame Israel for everything. Almost everyone participates in the sanctions but citizens aren't the target.
> we could say that Iran is being starved as well, but we can't blame Israel for everything Funny that you say that, because the reason Iran is under sanctions is that Israel wanted it. Obama had agreed to a lift on the sanctions in exchange for a strict control on Iran's nuclear program; Trump and his cohort of rabid zionists remote controlled from Tel Aviv reneged on the agreement and restored the sanctions.
Everything that happens it the world is because Israel was secretly behind it. Right?