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You don't run something by editing a text file
cron would like to have a word with you as would init.d
So you use cron whenever you want to launch an executable? This "UNIX way" seems terribly convoluted.
Windows 11: Just say no
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Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#522I just installed Windows Server 2019 on my new laptop, in the hope it gets less telemetry, fluff and UI innovations. At least I can sleep well at night knowing I won't wake up one morning to new Windows 11 on my laptop.
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> Microsoft needs someone with a vision for Windows at the helm, Is it possible for a project to be abused for long enough that it becomes irrecoverable from any financially sensible perspective? I mean this seriously: I've heard the codebase for Windows is really, really ancient and making updates is a nightmare. It's almost like trying to revive a lost language. What if Windows has passed the threshold where the co…
Whoever you heard that from is wrong. The codebase has evolved over time and has been actively maintained and refactored. Making updates is not a "nightmare".
Very few code bases that old are easily maintained. It's not really much of an insult to say so.
And given how long it takes to roll out basic features and improvements to long standing issues, my hope is that the code is a nightmare. The other options are terrible leadership, or incompetent developers. Or some mix of all three.
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#524Windows 11 is half-baked. But it isn't just half-baked because it was rushed out while ignoring all the feedback (although it absolutely was). It is also half-baked because Microsoft's management has no particular strategy or plan for what they want Windows to be. So Windows 11 just feels like an "and kitchen sink" where someone picked up an iPad, noted down a bunch of random features without rhyme or reason and then…
This seems to happen to nearly every company after the founder leaves.
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#525Earlier quoted context omitted.
cron would like to have a word with you as would init.d
So you use cron whenever you want to launch an executable? This "UNIX way" seems terribly convoluted.
So you use cron whenever you want to launch an executable on a scheduled basis.
Edit: Arguing that running executables via CLI is what makes things *nix is just missing the point. In case your unfamiliar with the 'everything is a file concept:
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#526Windows 11 is half-baked. But it isn't just half-baked because it was rushed out while ignoring all the feedback (although it absolutely was). It is also half-baked because Microsoft's management has no particular strategy or plan for what they want Windows to be. So Windows 11 just feels like an "and kitchen sink" where someone picked up an iPad, noted down a bunch of random features without rhyme or reason and then…
> Microsoft needs someone with a vision for Windows at the helm, Is it possible for a project to be abused for long enough that it becomes irrecoverable from any financially sensible perspective? I mean this seriously: I've heard the codebase for Windows is really, really ancient and making updates is a nightmare. It's almost like trying to revive a lost language. What if Windows has passed the threshold where the co…
Definitely not. I heard the NT kernel codebase is actually beautiful to work with.
There's definitely code rot in Windows, but that's probably due to compatibility reasons with third party code rather than actual bad design.
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After installing Windows for the first time in easily 6 years, I was shocked that things like the device manager and disk management still look like they're from Win95. It's not better if it's not remotely consistent
Those control panels might look dated, but they are a lot more discoverable and feature complete than their modern replacements.
Perhaps more feature complete, but idk about discoverable. I wouldn't have found them if I didn't already know they existed, because I had to search for them.
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#528After reading all the grumbling here I decided to install Win11.
Downloaded the beta iso, burnt a DVD and installed a new SSD.
My PC is a few years old and doesn't have a TPM chip, but the RegEdit hack was simple and worked just fine.
The install went smoothly and surprisingly quickly.
After using Win11 for a day or two, I really like it and soon got used to the UI changes. It seems to be very fast and snappy.
My one criticism is the rather clunky right-click menu's in Explorer. Hopefully that will be sorted in the next release.
Bottom line, I love Win11 and won't be going back!
P.S. have installed every version since Win#1, way back in 1985.
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Meanwhile, updates work for me but don't ask for user consent after downloading them. I just come back to find my PC randomly rebooted overnight.
Better that than the Internet being attacked by botnets full of machines that users never patch because they're constantly "doing important things overnight".
In case you weren't joking, no, that's not "better" at all. Even when it's about your own life at stake, and therefore an argument for overriding your decisions may have a better standing, you are still allowed to refuse treatment even if it comes from professional people that even took the (Hippocratic) oath to make your well-being a priority. Now let's get back to the personal computing and what's happening here with these forced updates, which is more akin to breaking and entering, when are not being authorized by the owner. How the hell did it come to this?
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
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Yeah, it's part of the identity crisis that emerged after someone decided the desktop UI should feel like a tablet or mobile UI. "It's easy. Just add a cog icon for settings!" Then, there's the whole free/ad supported model wherein you need an MS account, etc. I don't want to be integrated into your cloud metaverse. I don't want OneNote. I don't want Teams. I don't want to go through a whole phony tablet-like experie…
I think they fundamentally no longer understand what the product is or should be. On the contrary, I think they know what the product is quite well: it's you . All the ads they're shoving into everything are evidence that even if you're paying for it, you are still the product being sold.
I wish this was at least quantified. If they want $100 for "Ad-supported Windows", what would they charge for a system without (basically LTSB but intentionally sold as a quantity of one consumer product, I guess)
I've always assumed the "let's profile and sell the data" was a either a bubble waiting to pop in the face of something GDPR-alike, or a tail-wag-the-dog scenario where they're gradually killing $100-per-sale products for 30-cents-per-user-per-month of new revenue. Would be fascinating for both consumers and investors to see what dollar figures they're using.