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"The shit version of chatgpt is free" Fixed that for you. And it will get shittier as investment dries up and the pressure to monetize increases.
ChatGPT Free uses full 4o since half a year. Rate limited of course but the limits are relatvitely high for free users.
My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
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Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
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We get it, you don't like LLMs, but nothing of what you mentioned pertains to the point I made initially, which is that locking down one's own account does not prevent someone else from making their own.
I do like LLMs, but I do no think they are appropriate for children. And the shit version much less so. And if you are a parent or a big brother, you absolutely have control over what online services a child uses. What an insane world we would live in otherwise.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
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GPT is blunt, critical, and highly opinionated if you tell it to be. That's what I don't get about people on this forum. GENERATIONS of STEM professionals who have it engraved in their head that a computer will only do what you tell it to - and nothing more, and they still don't think to simply just tell GPT what lens they want it to view content in, or give it accurate and necessary directives. They think it'll hand…
> and they still don't think to simply just tell GPT what lens they want it to view content in, or give it accurate and necessary directives. They think it'll handle that for them. Why? Projecting much? That doesn't describe me _at all_. I use ChatGPT and other LLM's frequently. I just legitimately don't think it would be good at the task of grading a paper with any sort of consistency. I don't even see why you would…
Didn't you just project, too? Lol. My comment is based on the writings I've seen here over the coming years about this technology.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
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Unironically is it that hard? I managed to not impregnate anyone until I met my wife in my 30s. Likewise for her. Likewise for many of my friends. Getting unintentionally pregnant is not a common event in my circles. You apply basic biology knowledge and protection and if all else fails there are multiple ways to “fix” the issue before it gets to the point where a baby is born.
Man, im in SD, health education here is dire, like there's one line about prevention in a massive slideshow, and nothing else. And assuming that teens just wont is simply delusional.
Yes, accidents happen. You are quite likely to eventually get hit by a car if you decide to cross the highway on foot every day for recreational purposes. Fate, bad luck, or choice?
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
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Hell, I’d argue a similar prompt could be useful for a lot of people. I use something similar for coding and ask it not to provide direct code and more a guide on coding principals with source links if possible.
How well has that worked for you? Sometimes just hearing other ideas helps get to a solution even if none of the ideas heard were the actual solution. Sometimes, just being forced to get out of the rut you're in at the time by being "forced" to stop to think about something else is all that's needed.
The idea was to use ChatGPT as debugging ducky 2.0
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
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ChatGPT Free uses full 4o since half a year. Rate limited of course but the limits are relatvitely high for free users.
And then downgrades to the shit version right?
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
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#518I'm close to someone who teaches at a university, and they're making heavy use of in-room essays written in blue books. This ensures that the work is purely the students, but I think it also has the side-effect that the grader is also working manually. I kinda think maybe at earlier levels, most homework should be moved into the classroom and done on paper anyway? What's the point of homework if they're not going to…
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#519I guess this signals the end of focusing on testing to prove one's "rank" as a student and actually start focusing on educating students rather than evaluating them. The whole problem with factory mass-education is the almost exclusive focus on evaluation. A little bit of education happens as a side-effect of the unrelenting soul-crushing evaluation so we've put up with it and called it education for 100 years. ChatG…
In France the extreme majority of your grades comes from in-class exams that are essay-based or at least long format rather than multi-choice like in the US. Homeworks are just exercises to learn and aren't graded. This entirely solves ALL the problems introduced by LLMs. The US just needs to adapt their evaluation system.
The sheer volume of evaluations is what makes us choose methods that help us scale our marking efforts, but I’m curious to see how this changes.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#520Using ChatGPT like this is most likely a symptom, not the problem. An 11 year old is naturally a curious creature and if she's turned her brain off to the point of mindlessly solving her homework like this, there's something very wrong with her environment.
Disagree. I'd bet if you asked people if they enjoyed their homework when they were in elementary / middle school most would say no. That's not the problem here. Actual homework will not last in the age of LLMs.