It will not be available in the EU for now. I always feel disadvantaged when I read that sentence
I'm not in the EU, but when I see something that is US only, I tend to assume its doing something with privacy/user data/otherwise that is restricted in the EU. Which means I generally avoid things that are not EU available even if they are available to me. Its not 100% but its a fairly decent measure of how much companies care about users to ensure they meet EU privacy laws from the start, vs if they provide some li…
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Users, not tools, should be judged. It is unlikely anyone is going to perform act of terrorism with this, or any kind of deep fakes that buy Easter European elections. The worst outcome is likely teens having a laugh.
Exactly. You can make anything you want in Photoshop, Word, Excel, Blender, etc. The company isn't held accountable for what the User makes with it.
I think the degree of power matters.
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Funny how all the negative uses to which something like this might be put are regulated or criminalized already - if you try to scam someone, commit libel or defamation, attempt widespread fraud, or any of a million nefarious uses, you'll get fined, sued, or go to jail. Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching i…
You are posting this under a pseudonym. If you did publish something horrific or illegal, it would have been the responsibility of this web site to either censor your content, and/or identify you when asked by authorities. Which do you prefer?
Key point right here.
You let people post what they will, and if the authorities get involved, cooperate with them. HN should not be preemptively monitoring all comments and making corporate moralistic judgments on what you wrote and censoring people who mention Mickey Mouse or post song lyrics or talk about hotwiring a car.
Why shouldn't OpenAI do the same?
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#514OpenAI isn't the only company that seems to act in this manner. I find this to be interesting. Your paying customers actively want to know about what you are doing and, more than likely, would love to get a heads-up before the word goes out to the world. Hearing about things from third parties can make you feel like a company takes your business for grant it or does not deem it important enough to feed you news when it happens.
Another example of this is Kickstarter, although, their problem is different. I have only ever backed technology projects on KS. That's all I am interested in. And yet, every single email they send is full of projects that don't even begin to approach my profile (built over dozens of backed projects). As a result of this, KS emails have become spam to be deleted without even reading them. This also means I have not backed projects I would have seriously considered and I don't frequent the site as much as I used to.
Getting back on topic: It will be interesting to see how Sora usage evolves.
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Users, not tools, should be judged. It is unlikely anyone is going to perform act of terrorism with this, or any kind of deep fakes that buy Easter European elections. The worst outcome is likely teens having a laugh.
Funny how all the negative uses to which something like this might be put are regulated or criminalized already - if you try to scam someone, commit libel or defamation, attempt widespread fraud, or any of a million nefarious uses, you'll get fined, sued, or go to jail. Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching i…
Because, at the end of the day, counterfeiting money is already illegal.
...and we should not censor tools, and judge people, not the tools they use.
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#516Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…
I wish Google would allow me to remove the AI stuff from search results. 99% of the times it's either useless or wrong.
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#517OpenAI is a masterclass in pissing off paying customers. I'm just about ready to cancel my ChatGPT subscription and move fully over to Claude because OpenAI has spit in my face one too many times. I'm tired of announcements of things being available only to find out "No, they aren't" or "It's rolling out slowly" where "slowly" can mean days, weeks, or month (no exaggeration). I'm tired of shit like this: Sign ups are…
I really don't think it's reasonable to expect them to onboard what is likely tens of thousands of sign ups in the first hour.
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You have to be specific . What's more important to you? - uncensored output (SD + LoRa) - Overall speed of generation (midjourney) - Image quality (probably midjourney, or an SDXL checkpoint + upscaler) - Prompt adherence (flux, DALL-E 3) EDIT: This is strictly around image generation. The main video competitors are Kling, Hailuo, and Runway.
SD does not generate video, does it?
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Imagine a movie like Napoleon, but instead of needing 100 million and thousands of extras, you just need 5 actors and maybe a budget of 50k. You could get something much more creative or historically accurate than whatever Hollywood deems marketable. I think about AI like any other tool. For example I make music using various software. Are drum machines cheating? Is electronic music computer sloop compared to playing…
The main comparator is Kasane Teto and Suno. Kasane Teto is functionally a piano that uses generative AI for vocal synthesis: https://youtu.be/s3VPKCC9LSs . This is an aid to the creative process. Suno lets you put in a description and completely bypass the creative process by instantly getting to the end: https://youtu.be/UpBVDSJorlU Kokoro is art. Driveway is content. Art uses the medium and implementation to say s…
It's like everything else. It's just a tool.
You can create an entire movie using a high end phone with quality that would have cost millions 40 years ago. Do real movies need film?
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#520Who is the audience for this product? A lot of people like video because it's a way of experience something they currently cannot for one reason or another. People don't want to see arbitrary fake worlds or places on earth that aren't real. Unless it's video game or something. But I see this product being used primarily to trick Facebook users I guess the CGI industry implications are interesting, but look at the wav…
Isn't there a multi-billion dollar industry in California somewhere that caters exactly to that demand?