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Not the OP, but I think you might have missed their point, which I think was: if robots take away people's jobs, how will said people afford robots.
Long term, humans are redundant and their inefficiency is just something that will be factored out of the system.
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Long term, humans are redundant and their inefficiency is just something that will be factored out of the system.
Weird, I thought the system existed for humans.
At least until the autonomous corporations really take over.
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Google uses their insane ad revenue to subsidize the Xerox Parc / Bell Labs of the current generation. Waymo, DeepMind, Gemini Robotics. They're killing it and leading the entire market. It's not just researchers. Engineers at Google get to spin up products and throw spaghetti at walls, too. Google has more money than God to throw around. Google's ad dominance will probably never go away unless antitrust action by th…
It's not just researchers. Engineers at Google get to spin up products and throw spaghetti at walls, too. This might have been true 10-15 years ago. I assure you it is not the case today.
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#504If this makes it easier and faster to sort garbage, we could probably improve the efficiency of recycling 100x. I know there are some places that do that already, but there are so many menial tasks that could be done by robots to improve the world.
They used AI to identify and sort
One issue was just the sheer muck of trash, if someone dropped an open smoothie, all sorts of sensors got covered, etc
Really cool idea I thought though
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If you can recognize what garbage to yeet, you can already yeet it today. You don't need a terribly slow robot arm to do it.
Yeah, maybe someone with more industry knowledge can give a better picture, but I have a hard time seeing how these robots would fit into and improve existing processes [0]. Garbage is mechanically sorted most of the way already; then IR is used to identify different plastics and air blasts are used to separate them out at dozens per second. The Gemini robot tech is cool as heck, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't se…
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> Google's ad dominance will probably never go away unless antitrust action by the FTC/DOJ/EU force a breakup. chatgpt has good chance to kill google search -> kill google.
If Chatgpt replaces Google search then it will be effectively signing it's own death warrant. ML models like chatGPT rely on the open web for training data, particularly for information about recent events. But models like chatGPT are horrible about linking to their sources. That means that sources that rely on ad revenue or even donations to exist will effectively disappear as chatGPT steals all of the traffic. With…
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#508We're witnessing the robot apocalypse coming at us in slow motion. It's coming gradually, until one day it'll come suddenly.
Since profit controls everything in this society and we are in a regulatory capture government, there is only incentives to build murder robots, not disincentives.
Yet again, ours proves to be a really boring dystopia.
Re: Gemini Robotics
#509does anyone know if any of the robot arms being used in these videos, especially the ones that look like just an aluminium extrusion, are off-the-shelf things that can be purchased somewhere? even if its a kit? I would love to experiment with something like this but everytime I try to figure out what hardware to do it with there's a thousand cheap no-name options and then bam 30k+ for the pro ones.
They use ALOHA 2 as the platform (includes arms, frame, cameras, etc.), which is an open-source design: https://aloha-2.github.io However, when I looked at the BOM I was surprised that the actual arm they use is an incredibly expensive off-the-self arm https://www.trossenrobotics.com/viperx-300 For a much cheaper option take a look at https://github.com/huggingface/lerobot (this is an AI training library/framework) w…
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#510The problem with Google is that their ad business brings so much revenue that no other product makes sense. They will use whatever they learn with robots to raise their ad revenue, somehow.