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Re: Gemini Robotics

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Not the OP, but I think you might have missed their point, which I think was: if robots take away people's jobs, how will said people afford robots.

Long term, humans are redundant and their inefficiency is just something that will be factored out of the system.

Weird, I thought the system existed for humans.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Long term, humans are redundant and their inefficiency is just something that will be factored out of the system.

Weird, I thought the system existed for humans.

The system exists for capitalists, who are technically speaking humans.

At least until the autonomous corporations really take over.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Google uses their insane ad revenue to subsidize the Xerox Parc / Bell Labs of the current generation. Waymo, DeepMind, Gemini Robotics. They're killing it and leading the entire market. It's not just researchers. Engineers at Google get to spin up products and throw spaghetti at walls, too. Google has more money than God to throw around. Google's ad dominance will probably never go away unless antitrust action by th…

It's not just researchers. Engineers at Google get to spin up products and throw spaghetti at walls, too. This might have been true 10-15 years ago. I assure you it is not the case today.

Yup, it still is. Maybe it was more prevalent or expected 15 years ago, but it still happens all the time today.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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If this makes it easier and faster to sort garbage, we could probably improve the efficiency of recycling 100x. I know there are some places that do that already, but there are so many menial tasks that could be done by robots to improve the world.

I helped a friend of mine’s company (CleanRobotics) service his trashbots that sorted landfill/recycling in shopping malls

They used AI to identify and sort

One issue was just the sheer muck of trash, if someone dropped an open smoothie, all sorts of sensors got covered, etc

Really cool idea I thought though

Re: Gemini Robotics

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If you can recognize what garbage to yeet, you can already yeet it today. You don't need a terribly slow robot arm to do it.

Yeah, maybe someone with more industry knowledge can give a better picture, but I have a hard time seeing how these robots would fit into and improve existing processes [0]. Garbage is mechanically sorted most of the way already; then IR is used to identify different plastics and air blasts are used to separate them out at dozens per second. The Gemini robot tech is cool as heck, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't se…

I dont see why a Gemini robot couldn't grab 20 dark clothing items from a hamper, put them in the laundry machine, wait an hour, take them out and put them in the dryer while I was at work (thanks return to office)

Re: Gemini Robotics

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> Google's ad dominance will probably never go away unless antitrust action by the FTC/DOJ/EU force a breakup. chatgpt has good chance to kill google search -> kill google.

If Chatgpt replaces Google search then it will be effectively signing it's own death warrant. ML models like chatGPT rely on the open web for training data, particularly for information about recent events. But models like chatGPT are horrible about linking to their sources. That means that sources that rely on ad revenue or even donations to exist will effectively disappear as chatGPT steals all of the traffic. With…

sites which survive will charge them for access to data, like reddit and wikipedia are already doing.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Weird, I thought the system existed for humans.

The system exists for capitalists, who are technically speaking humans. At least until the autonomous corporations really take over.

Little did we know we already invented the paperclip maximizers

Re: Gemini Robotics

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We're witnessing the robot apocalypse coming at us in slow motion. It's coming gradually, until one day it'll come suddenly.

Since profit controls everything in this society and we are in a regulatory capture government, there is only incentives to build murder robots, not disincentives.

The distinction today is that the murderbots work in the back office of your health insurance company.

Yet again, ours proves to be a really boring dystopia.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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does anyone know if any of the robot arms being used in these videos, especially the ones that look like just an aluminium extrusion, are off-the-shelf things that can be purchased somewhere? even if its a kit? I would love to experiment with something like this but everytime I try to figure out what hardware to do it with there's a thousand cheap no-name options and then bam 30k+ for the pro ones.

They use ALOHA 2 as the platform (includes arms, frame, cameras, etc.), which is an open-source design: https://aloha-2.github.io However, when I looked at the BOM I was surprised that the actual arm they use is an incredibly expensive off-the-self arm https://www.trossenrobotics.com/viperx-300 For a much cheaper option take a look at https://github.com/huggingface/lerobot (this is an AI training library/framework) w…

thank you!

Re: Gemini Robotics

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The problem with Google is that their ad business brings so much revenue that no other product makes sense. They will use whatever they learn with robots to raise their ad revenue, somehow.

The problem with HN is people with little expertise in an area confidently claim things that are woefully wrong
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