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Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by cvhc »

moralestapia wrote: post #221
cvhc wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This really depends on which day of 2022 you start the calculation. But to be fair, you can claim the same for AAPL (+25%)/MSFT (+22%)/AMZN (+22%)/... It's just the up and down of the entire market (and these big techs dominate S&P 500). I don't think that actually indicates anything.

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My friend why so irritated... I was just explaining why you two got different numbers. And my numbers of other companies are also calculated from the start of 2022.

I guess my broken English doesn't match today's bot quality :)

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by renecito »

fusslo wrote: post #239

I'm a firmware engineer that's been working in consumer electronics and I feel very bleak about my future I feel so left behind. I have extremely limited robotics and computer vision experience. I have no ML experience. The only math I know has to do with basic signal processing. When I see open roles at these companies I think the projects I'm going to work on in the future will be more and more irrelevant to societ…

Get concerned when you see a real product in the market that has a sustainable business model.

The man behind the curtain here has an army of engineers, unlimited cloud nodes and basically has harvested all the data currently available in the world.

It doesn't get any better than this right now.

What's next? They'll ping you later on Linked-in with this awesome idea that you need to make sure runs in a $1 USD microcontroller with a rechargeable battery that is supposed to last at least all day.

The actual scary stuff is the dilution of expertise, we contributed for a long time to share our knowledge for internet points (stack overflow, open source projects, etc), and it has been harvested by the AIs already, anyone that pays access to these services for tens of dollars a month can bootstrap really quickly and do what it might had needed years of expertise before.

It will dilute little by little our current service value, but you know what, it has always been like this forever, it is just faster.

In the meantime, learn to automate the automator, that's the way to get ahead.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by delichon »

0x457 wrote: post #242
delichon wrote: post #13

I read too much scifi, and almost none of it has updated on the current state of AI. For example spaceships swarming with low skill level crew members that swab the decks and replace air filters. Or depending on a single engineer to be the only one with the crucial knowledge to save the ship in an emergency. If scifi authors aren't keeping up it's hard to expect the rest of us to. But the macro and micro economic cha…

> Or depending on a single engineer to be the only one with the crucial knowledge to save the ship in an emergency. This seems like it's rooted in reality.

I'd agree if you replace "knowledge" with "judgement". It seems to me that mere knowledge will become embedded in our environment.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by riku_iki »

echelon wrote: post #250
gatinsama wrote: post #100

The problem with Google is that their ad business brings so much revenue that no other product makes sense. They will use whatever they learn with robots to raise their ad revenue, somehow.

Google uses their insane ad revenue to subsidize the Xerox Parc / Bell Labs of the current generation. Waymo, DeepMind, Gemini Robotics. They're killing it and leading the entire market. It's not just researchers. Engineers at Google get to spin up products and throw spaghetti at walls, too. Google has more money than God to throw around. Google's ad dominance will probably never go away unless antitrust action by th…

> Google's ad dominance will probably never go away unless antitrust action by the FTC/DOJ/EU force a breakup.

chatgpt has good chance to kill google search -> kill google.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by cjmcqueen »

If this makes it easier and faster to sort garbage, we could probably improve the efficiency of recycling 100x. I know there are some places that do that already, but there are so many menial tasks that could be done by robots to improve the world.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by [deleted] »

GardenLetter27 wrote: post #252
fusslo wrote: post #239

I'm a firmware engineer that's been working in consumer electronics and I feel very bleak about my future I feel so left behind. I have extremely limited robotics and computer vision experience. I have no ML experience. The only math I know has to do with basic signal processing. When I see open roles at these companies I think the projects I'm going to work on in the future will be more and more irrelevant to societ…

At least robotics (and by extension, embedded development) is a growing field. I'd be more worried being a junior front-end mobile or web dev.

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Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by antognini »

swyx wrote: post #53
Workaccount2 wrote: post #37

Google is probably the most undervalued tech company there is currently, by far : 1.) Has cutting edge in house AI models (Like OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok, etc.) 2.) Has cutting edge in house AI hardware acceleration (Like Nvidia) 3.) Has (likely) cutting edge robotics (Like Boston Dynamics, Tesla, Figure) 4.) Has industry leading self driving taxis (Like Tesla wants) 5.) Has all the other stuff that Google does. (Like…

ah, HN, where a $2,000,000,000,000 market cap company (#5 in the world) is undervalued

Its PE ratio is by far the lowest of the FAANG/MANGA/Magnificent 7 tech companies.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by n_ary »

ethan_smith wrote: post #251
fusslo wrote: post #239

I'm a firmware engineer that's been working in consumer electronics and I feel very bleak about my future I feel so left behind. I have extremely limited robotics and computer vision experience. I have no ML experience. The only math I know has to do with basic signal processing. When I see open roles at these companies I think the projects I'm going to work on in the future will be more and more irrelevant to societ…

It definitely adds value to the conversation - we're all human, we're all unsure about the future and our place in it. I'm just scared about a future where humans (say the next generation, kids 1-5 years of age right now) lack in-depth knowledge of almost everything and it's mostly AI writing low-level code, so there are no more "human experts." We've already seen this happening where Gen Z mostly interacts with the…

> I'm just scared about a future where humans (say the next generation, kids 1-5 years of age right now) lack in-depth knowledge of almost everything and it's mostly AI writing low-level code, so there are no more "human experts."

Isn’t that the ultimate goal?

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by wstrange »

Tesla's insane valuation based on future hypothetical robots is hard to justify given announcements like these.

It seems unlikely that any company (Google included) will have a robotics moat.

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