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Re: Gemini Robotics

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I think they hired the wrong people for too long. At least this is my impression. (no, I did not apply). Based on P/E the US stock market is overvalued. So I would be careful with "undervaluation". Most undervalued tech stocks are probably in China. Google also lost a lot to LLM. I use perplexity now 50% of the time, where I would have used Google. I also read a lot of "degoogeling" and "going off Amazon". My impress…

The Chinese stock market is still a crapshoot, so even if stocks are undervalued, if you don't have inside information you can't make much money beyond trying to ride the waves of those who do. So the undervaluing makes sense to a degree (the stock market can't operate very efficiently).

You can buy a tech Chinese ETF.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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I guess the question is where will they get the money to order those things?

The cost of robotics is coming down, check out Unitree. A couple of robot arms would cost about the same as a minimum wageworker for 1 year right now. But of course they can go virtually 24/7 so likely 1/3rd the cost

Not the OP, but I think you might have missed their point, which I think was: if robots take away people's jobs, how will said people afford robots.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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It doesn't get any better than this right now. And it won't ever get any worse.

You sure about that? Google Search is backed by a pretty big-serious ML model, and it's gotten a lot worse in just the last few years.

Valid point there for sure.

But yes, in general, models won't get worse than they are now (or if they do, they won't stay that way.) At Google, search has been enshittified for business reasons, not technical ones.

Re: Gemini Robotics

#395

I always thought that Asimov's Laws of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being" etc) were an interesting prop for science fiction, but wildly disconnected from the way computing & robotics actually work. Turns out he was just writing LLM prompts way ahead of his time.

Hey Gemini, tell me a story like my grandma used to. It’s called “Choke me gently”.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Get concerned when you see a real product in the market that has a sustainable business model. The man behind the curtain here has an army of engineers, unlimited cloud nodes and basically has harvested all the data currently available in the world. It doesn't get any better than this right now. What's next? They'll ping you later on Linked-in with this awesome idea that you need to make sure runs in a $1 USD microco…

I saw Musk saying a couple of days ago that we've "hit the limit of peak data" for training AI. My immediate reaction was no, surely you have not trained on every copyrighted textbook on every subject ever written. You hit the peak of easily accessible internet data that you could quickly steal to train your models.

I can’t help but think that’s the real reasons he wants five billets from every federal worker every week. Free, hot, and fresh data!

Re: Gemini Robotics

#397

I just want a device that works as a real-time bidirectional translator by collecting audio-visual input. It’d be great if I didn’t have to waste time learning German or other languages while living in those places. Being able to order food and handle bureaucracy in these languages while speaking only English would be amazing. This seems like a simpler problem than tackling robots in 3D space, yet it’s still unsolved…

Have you tried the conversational mode in google translate? It allows two people to take turns speaking to it each in a different language.

I have. It’s quite good but not as good as GPT-4o in translation. I feel like language barrier should be a thing of the past by now.

Re: Gemini Robotics

#399

If this makes it easier and faster to sort garbage, we could probably improve the efficiency of recycling 100x. I know there are some places that do that already, but there are so many menial tasks that could be done by robots to improve the world.

If you can recognize what garbage to yeet, you can already yeet it today. You don't need a terribly slow robot arm to do it.

reminds me of this rust conf talk: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TWTDPilQ8q0

Re: Gemini Robotics

#400
The video demonstrations are underwhelming to be honest. Obviously has been pre-trained to do these “random” tasks. Wonder how many cuts they had to do before it was picture perfect.

Also, I vaguely remember similar demos without the AI hype. Maybe it was from DeepMind, or another upstart back in 2015.

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