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Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by writtenAnswer »

DebtDeflation wrote: post #313
renecito wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get concerned when you see a real product in the market that has a sustainable business model. The man behind the curtain here has an army of engineers, unlimited cloud nodes and basically has harvested all the data currently available in the world. It doesn't get any better than this right now. What's next? They'll ping you later on Linked-in with this awesome idea that you need to make sure runs in a $1 USD microco…

I saw Musk saying a couple of days ago that we've "hit the limit of peak data" for training AI. My immediate reaction was no, surely you have not trained on every copyrighted textbook on every subject ever written. You hit the peak of easily accessible internet data that you could quickly steal to train your models.

Meta famously used libgen to train, right? That is basically a source for all copyrighted textbooks and more.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by writtenAnswer »

ethan_smith wrote: post #251
fusslo wrote: post #239

I'm a firmware engineer that's been working in consumer electronics and I feel very bleak about my future I feel so left behind. I have extremely limited robotics and computer vision experience. I have no ML experience. The only math I know has to do with basic signal processing. When I see open roles at these companies I think the projects I'm going to work on in the future will be more and more irrelevant to societ…

It definitely adds value to the conversation - we're all human, we're all unsure about the future and our place in it. I'm just scared about a future where humans (say the next generation, kids 1-5 years of age right now) lack in-depth knowledge of almost everything and it's mostly AI writing low-level code, so there are no more "human experts." We've already seen this happening where Gen Z mostly interacts with the…

That is only a negative if you believe that net intelligence is going down due to this level of increase of "easy of use" technology. I agree with you that it is bad for the avg person today, but for the smartest person, things are better.

Definitely believe we are reaching some sort of global maxima in terms of intelligence in our current structure of society

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Post by artificialprint »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #368
darkwater wrote: post #312

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Well, it's actually good to have that kind of marketing. First, because there are people that don't care anyway and keep mixing things. So, robots can be useful just the same. And for the ones that actually follow the marketing, it's a good incentive to try to reduce the usage of one use plastics and packages in general. Recycling is the last of the 3 Rs for a reason.

Honestly I am so frustrated with the approach of "lets take a population of millions of people and ask them all to sort perfectly". 'Tis a silly thing. Some people won't care, some people will care but mistakes will happen, some people will care about money more and so will deliberately dump things in the wrong bucket. Get everyone to dump their crap into one pile and actually invest in industrial processes to sort t…

Japanese sort really well. Most European countries too

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Post by appleorchard46 »

stefan_ wrote: post #336
cjmcqueen wrote: post #276

If this makes it easier and faster to sort garbage, we could probably improve the efficiency of recycling 100x. I know there are some places that do that already, but there are so many menial tasks that could be done by robots to improve the world.

If you can recognize what garbage to yeet, you can already yeet it today. You don't need a terribly slow robot arm to do it.

Yeah, maybe someone with more industry knowledge can give a better picture, but I have a hard time seeing how these robots would fit into and improve existing processes [0]. Garbage is mechanically sorted most of the way already; then IR is used to identify different plastics and air blasts are used to separate them out at dozens per second.

The Gemini robot tech is cool as heck, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't seem particularly well suited to industrial automation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUrBBBs7yzQ

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Post by rednafi »

I just want a device that works as a real-time bidirectional translator by collecting audio-visual input. It’d be great if I didn’t have to waste time learning German or other languages while living in those places.

Being able to order food and handle bureaucracy in these languages while speaking only English would be amazing. This seems like a simpler problem than tackling robots in 3D space, yet it’s still unsolved.

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Post by linkregister »

dingaling wrote: post #141
hlfshell wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google (Alphabet's) stock price has generally gone up 200% in the past 5 years. That is the only reason he is there, and that is the only way he is judged.

But why does that matter to Google? They'll never need to issue more stock to raise cash; last year they had $200 billion in gross profit, money they literally didn't find a reason to spend. Imagine being so replete with cash that after paying all your costs, all your salaries, all your R&D - you still can't find a way to spend 200 billion, so you threw a chunk of it away as tax and put the rest in the bank. The pric…

You'd think they'd join many companies and pay a dividend or perform stock buybacks.

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Post by thebytefairy »

rednafi wrote: post #376

I just want a device that works as a real-time bidirectional translator by collecting audio-visual input. It’d be great if I didn’t have to waste time learning German or other languages while living in those places. Being able to order food and handle bureaucracy in these languages while speaking only English would be amazing. This seems like a simpler problem than tackling robots in 3D space, yet it’s still unsolved…

Have you tried the conversational mode in google translate? It allows two people to take turns speaking to it each in a different language.

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Post by worik »

How much of this is real? How much staged, carefully edited?

I expect they are more honest than the Telsa men in suits debacle, but my trust is low.

What do we know to be the facts?

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by decimalenough »

I always thought that Asimov's Laws of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being" etc) were an interesting prop for science fiction, but wildly disconnected from the way computing & robotics actually work.

Turns out he was just writing LLM prompts way ahead of his time.

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