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Congrats on the launch! How do you handle reposts and low effort content with this business model? I.e. what prevents me from repackaging popular content from elsewhere and farming votes?
votes aren't free. why would i upvote the low effort?
The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influen…
Completely disagree re: moderation. The goal for sites like this is never "high quality content", it's "maximum traffic". If he can get 50k paying users, he's a millionaire. If that means low effort meme posts, who are you to slap those dollars out of his hand? The "intelligentsia" of the Internet need to get a grip on what people want; these sites are for entertainment not elucidation and discovery.
so how do you feel about HN personally?
>If that means low effort meme posts, who are you to slap those dollars out of his hand?
If so, congrats. I'll keep searching and be glad some rags to riches site came about in a time of multibillion dollar empires.
>these sites are for entertainment not elucidation and discovery.
put it this way. I've been on the internet for decades, and I know that to really find quality content you gotta either pay for it in money behind a paywall, or in a lot of time digging through the muck. I have done both.
I'm not going to pretend there won't be a lot of muck to dig through here, even with the idea of a paid subscription site. But the goal here is that there will be enough nuggets underneath to make it worth it. And currently, that line is pretty low given what I dig through reddit to find.
You should post this on /r/RedditAlternatives/ as well if you haven't already. Also, clickable link: https://non.io/#all
I did, but they weren't a fan of the paid model for interaction: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/147qzfb...
You already did open up your content, but personally I'd lead with that. Make lurking free and any interaction part of the subscription. This would include posting content, as it does remove the most blatant spam and gaming of the system.
Having said that, while I do think it is commendable that you want to reward the people that provide content, I am not sure if you should do so based on votes. Because that will just make it so people will try to game the system with clickbait and fluff content.
As we are on HN anyway:
"The Fluff Principle: on a user-voted news site, the links that are easiest to judge will take over unless you take specific measures to prevent it."
Source: Article by Paul Graham (the guy that started HN and funded reddit way back in the day) http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html.
What this means is basically the following, say you have two submissions:
1. An article - takes a few minutes to judge. 2. An image - takes a few seconds to judge.
So in the time that it takes person A to read and judge he article person B, C, D, E en F already saw the image and made their judgement. So basically images will rise to the top not because they are more popular, but simply because it takes less time to vote on them so they gather votes faster.
Some things out the top of my head you can do to mitigate this are:
- Don't tie it to voting, make it a different action people have to explicitly give. Basically reddit gold, but then still with the monetary reward tied to it. - In addition to that, don't make it an infinite resource people but a monthly budget people can spend (this might already be the case? I didn't check too closely) - Technically a bit more challenging, but if you could tie it to engagement time in addition to votes it would mitigate the fluff content issue somewhat. Some metrics you might be able to use are time spend in comments, time between clicking on an outbound link and voting (don't count votes with no outbound interaction either), etc.
As a seperate thought, I am not sure if there are liability issues when you reward posted content with money. Not all posted content will be owned by the person posting it, but they are effectively being paid for it. So that might make you as a platform more liable for copyright claims and such. Not a lawyer though, just something I thought of.
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What do you do when there are comment threads between subscribers of different tags. Or what if somebody is subscribed to both tags but wanting to comment based more on the viewpoint of one of the tags. I'm not saying it couldn't work but I don't think it would be as trivial as that. I also like that subreddits were able to foster their own communities with different expectations and cultures. I feel like using tags…
I took a stab at this a long time ago and I came up with two solutions, The first is an account setting for the user that allows them to hide all comments from people that arent part of any community that the post shows up in: https://github.com/kraftman/TenTags.io/blob/bc6f3046dda4815b... The second is to allow filtering all of the comments by the communities the comments came from: https://github.com/kraftman/TenTa…
However, the current top post is NSFW and the preview is rendering in the timeline, that would be something to change so folks can safely browse on the job.
Do you think can you remove the css animations when loading any page? It's a bit annoying to see the fading in at each load.
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It reads to me like: > " [your subscription fee over my $1 take] gets split evenly between everything you upvote that month. " So if I subscribe and pay $2/month, there's $1/month from me for that, so if I upvote ten things they each get $0.03 from me and if I upvote a ten things a day that's three hundred in a month, they each get $0.0033 from me. I'm not clear if that covers comments or only top level submissions /…
There needs to be a limit on things you can upvote each month based on how much you give as a subscription. Each upvote should be worth at least 1 penny. If you agree to subscribe for $2 a month, that gives you a max of 100 upvotes (1 for each penny over the dollar server costs). The more you donate, the more upvotes you get ($5 per month would give you 400 votes).