Congrats on the launch!
How do you handle reposts and low effort content with this business model?
I.e. what prevents me from repackaging popular content from elsewhere and farming votes?
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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years
#72Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…
> this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network effect
Which is why launching any social network is a dice roll. You need that initial momentum to propel it further, or some 'lucky break' to get it popular. Many social networks got popular accidentally, typically because some VIP joined the platform and everyone went to follow the VIP, increasing DAUs / MAUs which is the only metric social media networks care about.
Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years
#73Make it costly for creators to actually post something. They can recoup in upvotes. That's the proper incentive structure ... by posting you're imposing on other people actually, and their attention. If what you posted recoups and goes on to get you a lot of points, great! But if you posted crap, make that be costly.
In fact, make "upvotes" be zero-sum transfers from the user to another. They have a limited amount and their upvotes will mean something. If you have downvotes then I guess the person is willing to lose that amount, just so the other guy does also.
Here is the full tokenomics: https://community.qbix.com/t/preventing-spam-and-sybil-attac...
Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years
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#75Looks great! Silly question, but have you considered ActivityPub integration? I ask because while it may not benefit you directly, these days i'm liking the idea more and more of joining a community if they're in "the fediverse". Which is to say i don't need to worry about the instance being small and isolated, i get benefits of the fediverse regardless of where i am in it. Ie, i get friction currently when looking a…
I have, but I think the two of these feel like different models. I want to encourage people to contribute back to creators, and doing that across the fediverse is a very difficult problem to solve. A few platforms are trying to do it, but it does come with performance/payout barriers. I wrote up about reddit alternatives here https://non.io/reddit-has-platform-user-misalignment , and one of the things I call out is t…
I would look for people who are already creators and want more sidegig. Say lots of creators are on Twitch who might want to have a paid community. Then they can organically grow in your space without starting from scratch.
As others said, make the frontpage a contentpage. See if you can seed some creators to post there.
Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years
#76Make the API compatible with Reddit's and you'll have a bunch of third-party clients starting on day one!
This is why I've been so curious as to exactly what Reddit is really trying to do with this api change. If the point of Reddit is to consume content then the content itself (and the amount of it consumed) is really their business model so all actions should support that vs. getting people to arbitrarily be on their site. If your business is content, it shouldn't matter if it's a third-party app or if it's on your mai…
You probably lose a lot of control on ads and tracking
Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years
#77Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…
> without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network effect
I think the ONLY value any of these these have is network effect. All those other things you listed are either irrelevant or come after the network effects kick in. The only other important thing is the visual/practical UX.
Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years
#78As others have said, congratulations on what is clearly a lot of solid work and a very interesting bet about how to dodge some of the traps e.g. Reddit is in all this grief over.
And this is the kind of moment that projects like this get a chance: struggling incumbent, #1 on HN, this is a great moment!
My 2c is that I’d stay flexible on the revenue model, even if you’re pretty sure you don’t want to do adds there are a variety of interesting variations on the paid model, there’s kinda left field stuff like Brave’s BAT thing (probably worth emailing their people for a fun chat either way) and lots of Patreon-style stuff.
I’d really nail the simple-sounding but critical stuff (and you’re well on your way!) before I got too attached to a revenue strategy.
Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years
#79Make the API compatible with Reddit's and you'll have a bunch of third-party clients starting on day one!
Do any 3P clients let you point their app to backends other than reddit.com? Or are you just saying it would be easy for app developers to quickly port their app to non.io?
Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years
#80It's a strange concept, but interesting. You might need to ensure that the system is difficult to game, though.