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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by rany_ »

layer8 wrote: post #115
belval wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, I was looking at the list of features and frankly it makes you want to use Edge + Bing as it removes the friction from going to the ChatGPT website entirely. You can ask it to write your LinkedIn posts, define itineraries, translate, etc... all with a simple natural language interface.

It won’t be limited to Edge. From the event: Q: Will this be available in Chrome or other browsers? Yusuf: Our intention is to bring it to all browsers. We're starting with Edge. Chrome has to implement some things to make it work, but our intention is all browsers.

> Chrome has to implement some things to make it work, but our intention is all browsers.

Edge is literally just Chrome with a few addons bolted in.... Does anyone know what that "some things" is?

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by Jackson__ »

pphysch wrote: post #49
echelon wrote: post #22

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Google is stepping out of the frying pan and into the fire. They foolishly derive 50+% of their income from search, where there is no longer a moat. The golden goose is cooked. Edit: It's quite possible that anyone will be able to enter this race right now and build LLM silos for their own domain. This cracks monolithic search wide open. GameFaqs becomes ChatGG, where you can ask, "How do I beat Ridley for the second…

Too early to say. Microsoft has to execute well, as a first-mover, while Google has to fail to execute. This could easily blow up in Microsoft's face (infrastructure failure or safety/correctness issues), or Google could put out a peer product and win simply due to existing momentum in search.

Rumor is that google will be deploying an 8 billion parameter version of lamda for their competitor, compared to the 176 Billion parameters used for GPT3.5. If that holds true, they might have already fatally fumbled the execution.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by nmeagent »

9dev wrote: post #242
stackedinserter wrote: post #220

Shower thought: with SO, Wikipedia, Quora etc eaten by LLM's, who (or what) will be generating content to train (teach?) LLM's with new, more relevant data?

But why, other LLM‘s of course! It’s a beautiful cycle.

An ouroboros of BS!

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Post by donmcronald »

robertlagrant wrote: post #446
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #441

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It'd be the overtaking of the century. Let's see. Bing market share in the US = Edge market share in the US = 50% of internet traffic comes from phones). Even if they get 100% of Google searches on Edge-devices to go to Bing (which they'll be lucky if they even get to 50% on their platforms) - it will hardly do anything... The rate at which Edge is becoming irrelevant as people transition traffic to laptops (more lik…

I disagree, but for totally different reasons. I think Edge's advantage is MS could build a load of corporately validated plugins and service in it for employees, making it the de facto corporate browser. Then with some decent features around work/life separation with bookmarks and password management and it could easily start bleeding back into consumerland.

> I think Edge's advantage is MS could build a load of corporately validated plugins and service in it for employees, making it the de facto corporate browser.

I think they're already trying to do this. If you open up Edge and it's signed into an MS365 account you get a bunch of content for your tenant.

It's also the reason I quit using Edge after being a fairly early adopter. Microsoft just can't stop adding stuff. What used to be a nice clean alternative to Chrome with the convenience of always being logged in to my MS account for sync has become a bloated piece of trash that can't even reliably share a tab to another device.

It's really the constant bombardment of notifications and distractions that are trying to get me to use features that don't belong in a browser that I hate.

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Post by WillAdams »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #441
davesque wrote: post #289

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Yep. If Microsoft somehow overtakes Google from the back with Bing and ChatGPT, it'll be the tech coup of the century. And it's so fascinating how Google's position as an AI think tank put them at a tremendous disadvantage. They didn't cut a deal with OpenAI because why should they? After all, they originated much of the research that led to GPT3. But then they didn't really do anything with it at all because they di…

It'd be the overtaking of the century. Let's see. Bing market share in the US = Edge market share in the US = 50% of internet traffic comes from phones). Even if they get 100% of Google searches on Edge-devices to go to Bing (which they'll be lucky if they even get to 50% on their platforms) - it will hardly do anything... The rate at which Edge is becoming irrelevant as people transition traffic to laptops (more lik…

The thing is, the current Edge is just a re-badged Chromium --- I really miss the old version which was kinder to battery life, had a smaller memory footprint, and integrated an e-reader for ePub files.

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Post by sn0wf1re »

grugagag wrote: post #461
lottin wrote: post #433

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Tiktok succeeded because it offered something that the public wanted. I don't know that a chat bot is something that the public wants. I know I have no use for it.

Now youtube trying to catch up with Tiktok is ruining their users experience with their 'Shorts' feature. My opinion at least. I wish I could hide shorts and never see them again...

I take the opinion of the sibling comment. These short form videos are heroin. And as a service provider YouTube needs to offer the number one in-demand product if they want to maintain clientele, even at the cost of their "core" product (medium to long form video).

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Post by yunohn »

robertlagrant wrote: post #446
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be the overtaking of the century. Let's see. Bing market share in the US = Edge market share in the US = 50% of internet traffic comes from phones). Even if they get 100% of Google searches on Edge-devices to go to Bing (which they'll be lucky if they even get to 50% on their platforms) - it will hardly do anything... The rate at which Edge is becoming irrelevant as people transition traffic to laptops (more lik…

I disagree, but for totally different reasons. I think Edge's advantage is MS could build a load of corporately validated plugins and service in it for employees, making it the de facto corporate browser. Then with some decent features around work/life separation with bookmarks and password management and it could easily start bleeding back into consumerland.

> could easily start bleeding back into consumerland.

That simply doesn’t work - people use O365 at work and GSuite at home.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by basch »

JohnFen wrote: post #455
Dalewyn wrote: post #439

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Most people ask human-style questions, eg: "How do I turn my toaster on?"; unlike tech enthusiasts who might be more inclined to feed mechanical queries, eg: "toaster turn on -site:reddit.com". If the former query becomes more useful, even at the cost of the latter (which has gotten fairly useless already anyway), that is an overall boon for end-users.

> that is an overall boon for end-users. But it would be a loss for people doing research.

Can you give an example of something you think will work in standard search but that stateful search would fail to return good results for?
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