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Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

altdataseller wrote: post #201
kjkjadksj wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe searches just arent that unique and they will cache all but the long tail of answers

15% of searches are unique according to https://www.seroundtable.com/amp/15-of-search-queries-google...

What's the decay?

How many searches are only searched 2 and 3 times?

I'd question if it's worth it to store the results an AI output for 3 years so that you don't need to regenerate it when someone searches it in the future.

For 1 - you're probably going to have a meaningfully better model every year...

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Post by skilled »

coldpie wrote: post #204
skilled wrote: post #155

Well, they better start figuring out how to let writers opt out of this horseshit because I am not about to live my life and write content knowing that some AI model will hoover it up and fuck me out of my livelihood.

> they better start figuring out how to let writers opt out of this horseshit I don't say this happily, but I think you can go ahead and make plans assuming that isn't going to happen.

It will though. Nothing in this world is free, least of all greed and ignorance.

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Post by basch »

lb4r wrote: post #134
epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

Consequently, this is probably the beginning of a very abrupt end for traditional search.

It's an end to keyword search.

Search now has state. I can search something, and then manipulate the results. Filter the results. I dont have to start over with a new query, or mess with quotes and -signs, which has been utterly terrible ever since google started taking things like that as suggestions. Or when I search for 4-5 words, and it instantly chooses to leave out the most important of the 5 terms so it can return tons of utterly useless off topic stuff.

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

jimrandomh wrote: post #101

This is undeniably cool and impressive, but, I think proceeding down this research path, at this pace, is quite irresponsible. The primary effect of OpenAI's work has been to set off an arms race, and the effect of that is that humanity no longer has the ability to make decisions about how fast and how far to go with AGI development. Obviously this isn't a system that's going to recursively self-improve and wipe out…

> humanity no longer has the ability to make decisions about how fast and how far to go with AGI development.

When did we ever have this ability?

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by paulpan »

revskill wrote: post #33
paulpan wrote: post #28

Most interesting tidbits: 1 - Sam Altman onstage all but confirmed the underlying LLM model as GPT-4 as he kept saying "next gen" without providing a name 2 - Microsoft is all-in by making this front-and-center of Bing, as well as deep integration into Edge browser I'm most curious about how Microsoft is planning to pay for the infrastructure cost of serving the traffic.

Its goal is to kill Google + Chrome i think. Profit comes later ?

Not if Microsoft kills itself in the process? At best it's a Pyrrhic victory as both companies sink enormous infra costs to outdo one another. Worst case could be like Nokia acquisition debacle a decade ago when Microsoft desperately tried to re-break into mobile and failed.

There was a HN thread on this a while ago where consensus was serving cost ~$0.03-0.05 PER query, which is absolutely huge. Adds more credence to OpenAI's new subscription model of $20/month. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34390123

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Post by lb4r »

pphysch wrote: post #190
lb4r wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There will still be links, but I'm guessing it will be GPT saying: "Here's a link on the topic: ..." And if you still need more links, there will of course be a way to access the old search, but it won't be front and center.

If I type "wapo" into Google or Bing, I don't want an earfull from a LLM about what "wapo" might mean (especially if streamed slowly a la current ChatGPT), I want a link to Washington Post's current frontpage.

That seems like a trivial matter of fine-tuning the model so that it includes the link on those types of queries. For example, if you search for a website, I doubt it would be hard to have the AI infer that it's a website and include a link to it.
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