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Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by ricardobayes »

nibbleshifter wrote: post #284
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #253

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I needed a new laptop last year. I decided to care less about my computer and so I chose not to get another Mac. Got a small Lenovo instead. Runs great with Linux. Does exactly everything I need it to do.

I've been instructing (extended) family members asking about laptops to just get an ex-biz lenovo (x220, x230, etc) and let me configure Linux/do upgrades on it for the last 8-9 years. It serves all their use cases, and most of them are still working fine with no real repair need. The apple branch of the family though (my in-laws) have been having hardware failures almost consistently during that time.

Most people care about design more than realiability

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by herbst »

haunter wrote: post #157
thomas-st wrote: post #61

My 14" M1 MacBook Pro screen repair cost was $809. Supervisor refused the waive the fee. The screen cracked for no apparent reason and then completely stopped working. Some firm already filed a class action complaint, and I submitted my details: https://classlawdc.com/2021/08/04/m1-macbook-screen-crack-in...

And that’s why most people buy $500 laptops. Even if the screen broke you can probably buy a 3rd party one from Aliexpress for $100. But $800 for a replacement one? I’d rather sell the MBP for parts on eBay and buy a new one if must then pay that much. Like you would get more for that with a broken screen for sure, some people would fix it on their own or use it as a desktop computer. But I don’t have a SV engineer s…

Or just a ThinkPad. The best available screen for my T480s is like $150 and way better than the original.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by 10729287 »

bardworx wrote: post #467
TacticalCoder wrote: post #427

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My two MacBook Air, both from 2013, are still working. They both have battery issues but I plan to replace the battery. My MacBook Air M1 had that very screen defect thing happen for no reason after... 10 months. So, basically: ten years vs ten months. Many people are reporting this issue: Apple fucked up big times and it's time to stop apologizing. I don't care how genius the Apple geniuses are and I don't care that…

Yes, that is really, really messed up. I’m not abdicating Apple from making a crap machine that they will be fixing for the next X years because of whatever issue. Currently, I still have faith in Apple, despite their lemons only because other companies laptops sucked more. But that does not mean your point in invalid, at all. I just hope that this is an isolated incident to a particular generation vs a broad company…

My 2008 white macbook had cracking wrist rest, exactly like any other macbook fromp this generation, and it seems every macbook since then had its very own issue impossible to avoid. I Love Apple laptops but it's like you're always buying them and using them with a sword of Damocles over your head.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by herbst »

ricardobayes wrote: post #501
nibbleshifter wrote: post #284

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I've been instructing (extended) family members asking about laptops to just get an ex-biz lenovo (x220, x230, etc) and let me configure Linux/do upgrades on it for the last 8-9 years. It serves all their use cases, and most of them are still working fine with no real repair need. The apple branch of the family though (my in-laws) have been having hardware failures almost consistently during that time.

Most people care about design more than realiability

The X2 or T4 series from Lenevo are definitely state of the art in Design. Being so thin that no standard plugs fit anymore wouldn't be 'hot' among humans either.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by freemint »

kurupt213 wrote: post #146
freemint wrote: post #64

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80s Apple computer were not speced for a long, useful life.

80s apple computers were highly upgradeable. Multiple expansion slots and 3rd party options. It was a completely different ecosystem, but it was when Woz was making design decisions on the apple II

While Woz certainly made some good decisions todays PCs are incomparibly more upgradeable and have longer shelf life due to also changing the CPU to a better model or use 5 years from the future graphic cards.

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Post by vladvasiliu »

lolinder wrote: post #241
legitster wrote: post #222

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> And that’s why most people buy $500 laptops. It's also worth pointing out that the $500 laptop will probably last a lot longer than the most expensive Macbook. All plastic, they use a lot of older/reliable technology, they don't get used as rough - the most common failure mode is they get too old/slow for the user.

I probably use my laptops harder than most people, but this has not been my experience with plastic laptops. I lost two laptops in a row to the plastic case cracking. In the first case the case broke around the hinge and destroyed a fan. In the second, about half the keys on the keyboard stopped working. I'll never buy another plastic-chassis laptop after that second one.

I can beat you! I had both issues, cracked hinge AND keyboard not working anymore on the same PC! It wasn't even a "cheap" model, but a rather mid-range HP ProBook. Judging by current prices, it should have been around €800 at the time.

> I probably use my laptops harder than most people

Yeah, I didn't. This was basically a sedentary laptop, 95% of the time sitting on a desk connected to external screens / kb / mouse in an AC office, never in the sun. The other 5% I'd carry it around to meetings in the same building.

Since I was using it so little as a portable, it actually outlasted my colleagues' ones by two generations! So, it wasn't just my particular one that was a piece of junk.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by vladvasiliu »

runjake wrote: post #304
threeseed wrote: post #232

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> Most people sit at home on a computer, and sit at work on another computer a) You don't know what most people do. b) I would add that those of us that are in a hybrid mode e.g. working equally from home and work are given laptops specifically because we are expected to use the same computer in both environments.

a. Sure I do. It's pretty easy to reckon. I don't see "most" people traveling across the country and countries on a regular basis. b. Sure, but again, that's a minority of even the professional demographic. Now, if you're thinking the developer demographic, sure I might agree with you, but that's not what OP said.

They don't need to travel across the country to need a laptop.

I have two data points for you:

The company I work for does little dev work. 99% of the people have laptops. They don't travel cross-country, mostly work in the office. But they also need to move to conference rooms, work from home, etc. We only have to handle one PC per person this way, instead of figuring how to handle their own personal PC when at home, etc. These are mostly "non IT people". Sure, you can argue they don't need the power of a desktop anyway. Which is absolutely correct.

I have a friend who does "actual dev work" working for an "actual software company". Java and C++, so they actually require powerful machines to compile (at least more than my company), etc. They used to have big-ass Xeon workstations. Those were replaced with some kind of Dell laptop [*] with a bunch of cores and RAM. He also basically never travels for work, but can now easily work from home without installing the company crap on his own PC. My friend is much happier with this arrangement.

Both companies provide multi-monitor setups with external keyboards and mice, so the comfort part of a desktop is still present when they're sitting at their desks.

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[0] They look like the XPS line, but seem somewhat thicker and don't have the XPS logo.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by vladvasiliu »

sseagull wrote: post #234
pmontra wrote: post #193

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My work is done almost 100% at a desk, in different rooms of my home depending on the season (some get too cold or too hot) or on a whim. A desktop won't do. And sometimes I really take my laptop to somewhere else.

Different strokes for different folks and all, but it's hard for me to imagine this. I have 3 large monitors, so even if I had a laptop I would want to move those around as well. After working with large monitors, I don't know how anyone gets serious work done on a laptop screen. I do have a laptop, but it is relatively inexpensive and used mostly as a thin client to my desktop (as others have mentioned). Edit: I wil…

I mostly agree with you, in that I usually find working on only a laptop screen frustrating and love having a dedicated work area.

But it depends on the task I do. For example, I quite enjoy working from my parents' garden when it's nice outside and if I do some focused work. Like reading some "long-form documentation" (where I don't need to follow it along as I apply it) or when I do some routine sysadmin work.

I have a big monitor (don't like having multiple monitors) at my parents' house, with a dedicated desk in a "work area". I also have this at home. And I also have this at the office. It's much more comfortable to move around these locations with a laptop than it would be to haul around a desktop, or have multiple desktops and having to keep them in sync. When I need actual horsepower, I have a Xeon workstation at my house, and my work allows me to leverage it remotely if needed. Guess what? I basically only turn it on for games.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by ricardobayes »

decremental wrote: post #264
bardworx wrote: post #235

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In the last 12 years, I’ve owned 3 MacBooks. Maybe my experience isn’t common, but the units that I’ve bought, have always outlived my windows machines. When averaged out to cost per year, in my experience, Apple is way cheaper.

I bought an Air in 2014 that lasted me until last year when I bought a new one. The old one still works. It's just too slow for my needs. I still open it up occasionally for some things. Longest running computer I've ever owned by a long shot.

I hate the fact I need to research 'vintages' for every product nowadays. Almost every product has a good production year followed by several worse ones. Like wine.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by ricardobayes »

legitster wrote: post #334
acdha wrote: post #300

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This is lazy trolling - maybe it’s true in your personal experience but there are tons of people who can say anything you want for n=1-2. If you want to do more than rehash 4 decades of “PC/Macs suck” forum posts, try finding some hard stats on resell value or enterprise fleet longevity.

I'm not trying to make a case that Macs are inferior. A Nissan is a much crappier car than a BMW, but I would bet on the crappier Nissan to run much longer without need of serious maintenance.

One thing I learned is japanese cars function very well if you change their oil very frequently. It's usually 10k miles by the book, but also the book says if you sit in traffic a lot or go short trips this should be more frequent, even as often as 3-5k miles. Most people don't read this fine print and get surprised their car burns 2 quarts of oil per thousand miles by 40k miles.
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