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Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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If you rent a flat, can landlord take your belongings because he thinks you have drugs?

What makes the landlord think you have drugs? Did he come to check the flat when you are not around?

Apple is looking to do that.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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There's a middle ground too. I use lots of cloud services, but I also spent $300 on a home NAS device to sync copies of the stuff I can't live without. Not affiliated with them, but I bought a Synology unit, and the UI lets you pretty easily sync things like Google drive. I'd still be scrambling around a bit to fix stuff if Google banned me, but I'd at least have copies of the most important things.

That works for us tech people who have know-how and cash. Most Internet users across the world don't have 300$ to spend right away (in many parts of the world, 50-200$ for a laptop/phone is already quite the expense). I believe only by empowering smaller, user-friendly providers (eg. hosting coops) can we actually change the situation.

Yes, but the $300 device wasn't really my main point. Just some middle ground of using Google, but maintaining a copy of important data. The copying could be done with a $30 external usb hard drive and regular visits to the Google Takeout page.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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>But it doesn't sit right Your argument makes sense, and I share your feelings on an emotional level, but at this point, the whole argument can be reduced to "sharing video files streamed from google drive is an equivalent of hosting a video on youtube, so the same rules apply", and that's hard to beat. If you want to store whatever material you want for personal consumption, you are welcome to. But if you enable sha…

The rules don't require the person holding the content to scan the content. Normally a DMCA claim is issued before the host has to get involved. Lets say you and I opened a joint safe deposit box at the bank to share USB drives together with movies on it. If the bank found out, they wouldn't be required to drill it open and scan the drive to make sure none of the movies were copyrighted. This is google drilling open…

>The rules don't require the person holding the content to scan the content. Normally a DMCA claim is issued before the host has to get involved.

Legally, you are 100% correct. The law doesn't require the host to do anything until a DMCA strike is received. But YouTube has its own rules, which is fully legal as well, as long as they are more restrictive than the law (e.g., establishments prohibiting alcohol inside are allowed, even though alcohol is legal; establishments allowing crack cocaine usage inside are not allowed, because crack cocaine is illegal).

And YouTube decided to take proactive approach here. The reasoning for why doesn't matter to the point at hand. The fact of the matter is, YouTube took a stricter approach to DMCA moderation and tends to not always wait until the video receives and actual DMCA strike.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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This was in case OP didn't want to give up Gmail straight away. Of course you can just migrate to another provider, or, as in my case, spin up your own mailinabox[1] instance. That way the only provider you have to deal with is the cloud provider for your VPS, and in the remote case my account was terminated, it would be very easy to switch to a different provider (because Mailinabox includes functionality to do auto…

I've thought about doing this myself, but apparently it's a lot of work to get right. I read from others who tried it that a lot of their mail would be caught by spam filters and they didn't necessarily know why.

I've been using mailinabox for almost a year, I had an email caught in spam once, I contacted the spam filter and said my IP was probably being used by someone else before I took it, and they whitelisted me.

So you can have an occasional annoyance but it's not that common.

When I get a new IP (e.g. because I'm upgrading to a newer machine) first I check my IP against a list of antispam filters (I don't want to advertise any of those services, but a quick internet search will show you where you can check, most services have a free tier), if it turns out that the IP has got a bad reputation, I just get a new one instead of trying to whitelist it.

The only time that my email got bounced, that IP was not "clean", it had been blocked by one of the filters but I thought "oh I will just whitelist it on that one filter". I should have generated a new one instead.

One more thing that some people might not know: with all spam filters, if your email is caught by the filter, you will get a message, it's not like you don't know if the email has been delivered or not.

You will see something like "Your message could not be delivered - The mail system [host, ip] refused to talk to me: [reason, e.g. spam]"

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Due process does not apply to companies choosing not to service you.

They cant steal or destroy your property though.

whether or not that is true is not an issue of due process

due process is "the state isn't allowed to do things to you unless they're in the law"

so like, a king would just make up criminal punishments. oh, you stole a painting? four years. THE PAINTING OF MY MOM? THIRTY YEARS, NO, FORTY.

because of due process, that isn't legal here

due process only applies to the application of the law, by the state

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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>you are effectively turning it into a personal youtube that is still hosted by google Then logically, why should it be available ad free either?

Because you actually have to pay for google drive to host your videos on it, and the storage space is pretty limited. You don't need to pay anyone to store videos on youtube.

>you actually have to pay for google drive to host your videos on it

I don't think so.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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However you feel about a company and their support policies, don't call other people "meatbags". That's gross. You're no higher tier of person than they are.

I was differentiating between humans and bots. Claiming we’re some higher form of being than an animal is equally dehumanising to the animals.

> dehumanising to the animals

Honestly not sure if you're joking about this.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Tips and tricks for doing this the easiest way possible?

Deja Dup on Linux supports this. Just pick a directory to back up, sign in with your Google Account, and check a box to encrypt your stuff before uploading. Google Drive just sees encrypted chunks with file names like “duplicity.gpg”.

And don't forget to backup the decryption key using an out of band method, such as a USB disk.

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Isn't the idea behind cloud storage to be able no to buy the actual physical storage?

Not really. You could do Cloud to Cloud but Cloud like RAID before it is NOT a replacement for proper 3-2-1 backups

Well if you put it like that, then why bother with cloud storage?

If I can't trust cloud storage, I might just buy another external hard drive (or a nas) and backup my data there.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Having recently dealt with what I’m assuming are a meatbag support team from Microsoft (specifically their business partnership program), I can honestly say there’s not much difference between a bunch of useless meatbags and no support whatsoever. It took me 4 weeks to sign up for a service which requires few business details and proof of a domain by form of an invoice . For a reason I don’t understand, it has no bea…

However you feel about a company and their support policies, don't call other people "meatbags". That's gross. You're no higher tier of person than they are.

It is not insulting, its science fiction[0][1]. Many humans self identify as such[2].

[0] https://www.google.com/search?q=meatbag&tbm=bks

[1] https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Meatbag

[2] https://twitter.com/amyhoy

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