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Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by antihero »

shell0x wrote: post #430

This is exactly the reason why I'm against Apple CSAM. It's just a matter of time before someone innocent gets flagged. Lots of parents take a photo of their child having a bath or something similar at least in Europe/Asia and it's clearly of non-sexual nature. Now, how does the Apple algo know that? I'm generally curious: Have you tried to contact Google before about any kind of issue? It took me like a day or so to…

I agree with your point as a whole but the Apple CSAM wouldn't really have this issue as it compares the images hashes against hashes of a specific list of CSAM.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by 3np »

antihero wrote: post #441
shell0x wrote: post #430

This is exactly the reason why I'm against Apple CSAM. It's just a matter of time before someone innocent gets flagged. Lots of parents take a photo of their child having a bath or something similar at least in Europe/Asia and it's clearly of non-sexual nature. Now, how does the Apple algo know that? I'm generally curious: Have you tried to contact Google before about any kind of issue? It took me like a day or so to…

I agree with your point as a whole but the Apple CSAM wouldn't really have this issue as it compares the images hashes against hashes of a specific list of CSAM.

Reminder that it's perceptual hashes, not cryptographic hashes. So it's enough that images have enough visual resemblance, according to the model. Natural collisions have been observed and generating collisions for planting on someone elses device is trivial.

Apple also only recieves a DB of hashes and so have no way to verify that they're only scanning for CSAM and not other "undesirable" content.

https://github.com/roboflow-ai/neuralhash-collisions

https://github.com/anishathalye/neural-hash-collider

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by Veen »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #346
exporectomy wrote: post #327

It's possible he really did violate Google's "Program Policies" which are utterly ridiculous: "If storing or distributing content related to terrorism for an educational, documentary, scientific, or artistic purpose be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context." So a random photo of a ute with the ISIS logo on the side might be a violation if you don't also write some commentary explaini…

You've employed a strawman fallacy; you took a policy which is on its face pretty reasonable: "be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context" and hyperbolized it, to put it mildly, into: "you are forced to write some commentary explaining what it's about and assuring everyone that you aren't..." Context is the opposite of "an explicit statement spelling it all out." Maybe I post photos of…

And how does that work when you're researching tanks and other military vehicles? Perhaps the researchers should photoshop someone wearing shorts and drinking a pina colada into their catalog of armored fighting vehicles from the Middle East.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by Nextgrid »

drran wrote: post #426
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And what, a refund for 99% of the time what is a free at point of service to the consumer? No, but give them a punitive fine (on the order of a percentage of their daily average profits) for failing to live-up to their own expectations set in their own advertising.

Daily average profits for free service are 0.

Then make it a simple fee/fine for screwing the customer. You promise that you're gonna host files and you deleted/restricted them? Pay $100 for every day that the files are unavailable.

Legitimate companies will have no problem with that. Scum that wants to lure users in (to capture their personal data) but doesn't even have the decency to hold up their end of the bargain will have to reconsider whether they still want to provide such a service.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by mdoms »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #353
Gigachad wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO there needs to be some kind of minimum allowed customer support when handling user data. If you can't provide real support for free, then remove the free plan. If everyone has to then they are all equal again. It's just wrong to trick people in to trusting a service with their data and then yanking it with no support contact.

Having recently dealt with what I’m assuming are a meatbag support team from Microsoft (specifically their business partnership program), I can honestly say there’s not much difference between a bunch of useless meatbags and no support whatsoever. It took me 4 weeks to sign up for a service which requires few business details and proof of a domain by form of an invoice . For a reason I don’t understand, it has no bea…

However you feel about a company and their support policies, don't call other people "meatbags". That's gross. You're no higher tier of person than they are.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by antihero »

JanisL wrote: post #344
zamadatix wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you use for maps?

OpenStreetMap can be quite good: https://www.openstreetmap.org

Do they bring in stuff like opening hours and can it do searches like "pub near me" yet?

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by Nextgrid »

dimitrios1 wrote: post #324
noxer wrote: post #265

Daily reminder that you need backups Daily reminder that online stored files should be encrypted (no bot would have found anything it doesnt like) Daily reminder that google is know for this and should not be used unless for a third backup or something.

Daily reminder that a former sitting president is still banned from a major social media network yet we are blessed with updates from literal terrorists, so when another big tech co keeps their eyes open for "terrorists" you know it's a facade to impose their draconian wishes, and remind us proletariat who really is in charge. Daily reminder that big tech is the biggest threat to democracy we face today, even bigger…

> conspiracy Q theorists LARPing in the capitol.

Big Tech also organized and profited from that. Most of this nonsense originated on Facebook.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by thinkingemote »

antihero wrote: post #446
JanisL wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenStreetMap can be quite good: https://www.openstreetmap.org

Do they bring in stuff like opening hours and can it do searches like "pub near me" yet?

Yes. but remember that openstreetmap is the database. Its third party applications which will expose and build upon it, e.g. including searches in DDG and Facebook and Apple. The project website is not a one stop shop to compete against gmaps.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by znpy »

KorematsuFredt wrote: post #403
tyingq wrote: post #43

I'm curious if "has locked my account" means just Google Drive, or if he also lost Gmail, Android functionality, Chrome profiles, Adwords, YouTube, YouTubeTV, purchased movies and tv shows, Fitbit, Nest, sites where he used federated login (DoorDash, Uber, etc). I see, for example, his YouTube channel is up, but it's associated with 'team@armouredarchives.com', and not the personal gmail account he posted in the link…

G employee. If you are using G to store anything important and if you do not have an offline backup or some other redundancy please reconsider.

Isn't the idea behind cloud storage to be able no to buy the actual physical storage?
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