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Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by manmal »

AaronAPU wrote: post #33
jmward01 wrote: post #8

Other medications become lifelong medications but without this level of scrutiny. I am 100% in favor of finding a more permanent treatment, but switching blood pressure meds, and cholesterol meds, and other daily meds for a single once a week med is a massive improvement, especially since the all source mortality data keeps rolling in showing the efficacy here is orders of magnitude better than all the other medicati…

But it is factually true that it’s a matter of willpower, no amount of reframing it is going to change that. It’s not like others like myself, currently on a cut cycle, don’t experience hunger. The idea that we are just “lucky” ignores all the willpower and discipline we fight through to do it ourselves. I’ve eaten about 800 calories today and it is 4pm. Just finished 90 minutes on the indoor bike. My stomach feels h…

Congrats, your metabolism (FAO, gluconeogenesis, insulin sensitivity, …) works well. Don’t assume that’s the case for everyone, because it’s well researched that this is highly individual.

Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by paulpauper »

filoleg wrote: post #41
jchw wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's frustrating. "Just Eat Less" is roughly the way to lose weight, but the problem is not that fat people are so unbelievably stupid that they didn't know this. I am sure for some people it really is that simple. Not us. My weight has been a bit of a rollercoaster. I've never been terribly thin, but I've been "not technically obese" from time to time. I'm currently back on the downswing, but God, what a pain in the…

> It feels like gaining weight is incredibly easy and losing it is incredibly hard I feel like there is more to it. Obviously, I sympathize with you, and I noticed that when I switch from a bulking cycle to a cutting cycle, it is a bit difficult to adjust for the first couple of weeks as well. But by god, I truly am struggling to switch the other way around, and it takes me months to adjust to the bulking cycle, even…

But by god, I truly am struggling to switch the other way around, and it takes me months to adjust to the bulking cycle, even with the help of stuff like weed

You could just have good genetics in which your body is resistant to weight gain or you have a low appetite to begin with. As shown by the worldwide obesity epidemic, this is apparently quite an uncommon problem. 75% of country overweight or obese.

Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by AaronAPU »

afavour wrote: post #45
AaronAPU wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it is factually true that it’s a matter of willpower, no amount of reframing it is going to change that. It’s not like others like myself, currently on a cut cycle, don’t experience hunger. The idea that we are just “lucky” ignores all the willpower and discipline we fight through to do it ourselves. I’ve eaten about 800 calories today and it is 4pm. Just finished 90 minutes on the indoor bike. My stomach feels h…

How can you say that with any certainty, though? How do you know that hunger hits you in the exact same way it does another person? That overcoming it requires the exact same amount of willpower in all people?

My hunger feels 8 trillion times worse than an obese person’s. Since I am making the claim, everyone else has to affirm it now.

Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by throw93994orj »

OptionOfT wrote: post #6

Being overweight is a chronic disease. Just like alcoholism, or any kind of other addictions. I've struggled with alcohol abuse, and once you come to the realization that you're abusing it, the fix FOR ME was relatively simple: I stopped (under medical supervision) drinking, or to be more precise: I stopped starting to drink. I have no problems not drinking, I have a problem that when I start I cannot stop. I have th…

Other countries do not have obese people, but have many drinkers!

It is issue of food and ingrediences. Too many sugars, fructose syrups from corn... If fat american moves to asian country, he loses fat, without changing a diet.

Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by cryzinger »

kozikow wrote: post #28

I did lose 30-40kg about 2 years ago on Ozempic. I don't count calories. I went off Ozempic (now Mounjaro) and I gain weight at about 0.5-1kg a month. As I am resistance (gym) training, significant % of that ends up being muscle mass rather than fat. So I end up taking Mounjaro for about 1-2 months every 3-4 months, approximately 33% of the time being "on". Funnily, I end up with bulk/cut periods without doing them e…

When you restart taking it after an "off" period, do you immediately resume whatever dose you were at before? Or do you taper up each time? (Curious because I know for many people, side effects level out after they've been at a given dose for long enough, but temporarily return whenever they increase their dose; not sure how "off" periods affect that kind of tolerance.)

Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by AaronAPU »

manmal wrote: post #51
AaronAPU wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it is factually true that it’s a matter of willpower, no amount of reframing it is going to change that. It’s not like others like myself, currently on a cut cycle, don’t experience hunger. The idea that we are just “lucky” ignores all the willpower and discipline we fight through to do it ourselves. I’ve eaten about 800 calories today and it is 4pm. Just finished 90 minutes on the indoor bike. My stomach feels h…

Congrats, your metabolism (FAO, gluconeogenesis, insulin sensitivity, …) works well. Don’t assume that’s the case for everyone, because it’s well researched that this is highly individual.

You know nothing about my metabolism.

Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by tartoran »

mgraczyk wrote: post #4
stinos wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's striking here is that this is roughly the same outcome as essentially every other diet (with the intent of losing weight) out there. It's just more expensive. And possibly more hyped.

And it works much better for most people

> And it works much better for most people

I thing it takes less effort to be effective but it has pretty bad side effects.

Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by paulpauper »

jmward01 wrote: post #8

Other medications become lifelong medications but without this level of scrutiny. I am 100% in favor of finding a more permanent treatment, but switching blood pressure meds, and cholesterol meds, and other daily meds for a single once a week med is a massive improvement, especially since the all source mortality data keeps rolling in showing the efficacy here is orders of magnitude better than all the other medicati…

A constant issue here is that we keep calling this a 'weight loss drug' and society views being fat as a moral failing ant that you 'just don't have the will power' to overcome. We need to stop. If this is a lifelong drug it is worth it compared to the relatively ineffective, and just as lifelong, alternatives out there.

I have noticed much less moralizing over the issue now compared to 2-3 years ago. I think more people realize these drug are safe and effective and not 'taking the easy way out', but rather a treatment for a medical problem than just blaming laziness or gluttony.

Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by XorNot »

jeffbee wrote: post #21

I guess it's a dialect thing, but I have become accustomed to disregarding absolutely every article that employs the word "jab".

The word itself is just insufferable at this point. The media collectively went bonkers for it while describing COVID vaccine delivery.

Re: Weight loss jabs: What happens when you stop taking them

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Post by manmal »

AaronAPU wrote: post #56
manmal wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congrats, your metabolism (FAO, gluconeogenesis, insulin sensitivity, …) works well. Don’t assume that’s the case for everyone, because it’s well researched that this is highly individual.

You know nothing about my metabolism.

Well one of those has to work well or you would have fainted by now.
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