Should be added that this is for SUVs coming from outside of Paris and doesn't affect residents. Positive development nonetheless.
Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
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#52It makes sense that road and parking pricing should be proportional to the size and impact of your car. Hopefully this will encourage manufacturers to produce more smaller cars - it's getting somewhat hard to buy a small car these days. I'd love to have a Japanese-style Kei car.
In France, small cars are not hard to buy - there is a large range of innovative designs on the market.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
tiny EVs are going to be very popular in europe
EVs are not really popular in my EU city because they require a dedicated parking space with a charger and most people live in an apartment with none of that.
At least in my city (in NL), there are a bunch of public electric chargers with the street parking around the city. It seems like almost 25% of spots are electric only in my neighborhood
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#54As a person with SUV and big family in Paris, I suggest we do the same with obese people and public transport - now that my kids will need to use it more frequently while paying more for sq ft.
I'd agree that families have the best reason for larger vehicles given how public transport can be difficult for buggies ect. An interesting intersection of gov trying to encourage families could be used here to offer a tax-relief on people that carpool (which'd by default therefore include families)?
To be honest we're moving out of France. I don't see much future in this country if you have a family unless you go to somewhere like Auvergne where there's less jobs, mostly farming and these guys are getting decimated and cities run down. Owning a dog here starts to be higher virtue than having a child. French are moreover delusional about the role their country plays in the international scene and lot of other things. I give it 10-20 years max.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#55As a person with SUV and big family in Paris, I suggest we do the same with obese people and public transport - now that my kids will need to use it more frequently while paying more for sq ft.
I'm detecting snark and bad faith engagement.
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#56As a person with SUV and big family in Paris, I suggest we do the same with obese people and public transport - now that my kids will need to use it more frequently while paying more for sq ft.
The vote did not concern resident parking places - even if you have an SUV you can still park as usual in _your_ area. Of course, if you drive to other parts of the town where you are not a resident (i.e. drive to a different arrondissement) then you count as a visitor. Its not unlogical - within Paris public transport should be used notably by those who live there - driving less than 5 miles inside the city makes li…
To be fair Paris has huge problem with too many cars. I'd close the center entirely.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
EVs in Europe and the US are on the downward trend at the moment. I’m not entirely sure why, maybe they are still too expensive.
For the downvoters, look it up - this is objectively true and has been well reported. And I’m not saying don’t buy an electric car, just that EV sales have decreased.
I couldn't find anything substantiating this claim, everyone is reporting record sales. What is decreasing is sales growth [1]. As in: each year more EVs are sold than the last year, but the difference to previous year's sales is shrinking
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#58As a person with SUV and big family in Paris, I suggest we do the same with obese people and public transport - now that my kids will need to use it more frequently while paying more for sq ft.
Large families fit in estate cars / station wagons, just like they did in the 1980s and 1990s.
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#59Interesting to note: the turnout (5.6%) is even lower than when it was decided to ban e-scooters sharing systems (7.4%).
Also note this only applies to vehicles from non-residents. And that parking in public spots is already very expensive in Paris; limited to a maximum of 6h, which will cost you up to 75€: https://www.paris.fr/pages/payer-son-stationnement-2129
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#60Actually they voted for tripling the cost of heavy vehicles. The size is not even mentioned. It's a shortsighted move, since it incentives using gasoline cars in cities and disincentivies Hybrid and even EVs due to their weight. There is nothing in the rules specific to SUVs.
Tyre dust, break dust, there are other forms of pollution we need to eradicate / reduce.
EVs produce almost no brake dust.
Someone needs to develop tyres that are made of healthier materials.