From the article it seems that the campaign was about pollution. Heavier vehicles also consume the road much more than lighter ones. It's proportional to the fourth power of the weight on axles.
Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
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Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#12It makes sense that road and parking pricing should be proportional to the size and impact of your car. Hopefully this will encourage manufacturers to produce more smaller cars - it's getting somewhat hard to buy a small car these days. I'd love to have a Japanese-style Kei car.
tiny EVs are going to be very popular in europe
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#13Why a tonnage limit for electric vehicles. It's obviously not entirely for GHG reasons. 2T is not all that heavy for EVs.
Of course it's as much an environment tax as it is a show-off tax.
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#14Actually they voted for tripling the cost of heavy vehicles. The size is not even mentioned. It's a shortsighted move, since it incentives using gasoline cars in cities and disincentivies Hybrid and even EVs due to their weight.
There is nothing in the rules specific to SUVs.
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#15Why a tonnage limit for electric vehicles. It's obviously not entirely for GHG reasons. 2T is not all that heavy for EVs.
Weight is the best way to tax vehicles. It correlates to the amount of energy needed to move it, generally with the size of the vehicle, and highly with the particulate pollution from brakes and tyres (yes I'm aware of regenerative braking), as well as the amount of wear and tear on the roads and infrastructure, etc. European cities were never built for large vehicles, we should be going towards smaller vehicles, a F…
Not only the energy though. "Tire emissions" are a serious problem and it's competing with ICE emissions. EV's are considerably heavier so they produce lots of fine particles from the tires.
Maybe in the North America they're not that important since other cars are as heavy (SUVs and Trucks). But in Europe, EV's are by far the heaviest of the regular use vehicles.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#16Why a tonnage limit for electric vehicles. It's obviously not entirely for GHG reasons. 2T is not all that heavy for EVs.
What ? It is. 2T means a 70kwh+ battery, an heresy on a planet with limited resources. In Europe there is decent EVs with a 1.4-1.5T weight (Zoe/208/fiat)
The Zoe is not being produced anymore and has a 0 of 5 possible stars safety rating.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#17Actually they voted for tripling the cost of heavy vehicles. The size is not even mentioned. It's a shortsighted move, since it incentives using gasoline cars in cities and disincentivies Hybrid and even EVs due to their weight. There is nothing in the rules specific to SUVs.
Tyre dust, break dust, there are other forms of pollution we need to eradicate / reduce.
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#18This applies to people coming in from outside the city with SUVs. It's probably still not fully financing the parking spots. Parking spots in cities are incredibly expensive and heavily subsidized.
Imo you should be allowed to use the parking spots for just about whatever you want within reason. Pay the parking price and set up a hotdog stand for the day if you want. Then raise the price until some spots are usually free
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#19It makes sense that road and parking pricing should be proportional to the size and impact of your car. Hopefully this will encourage manufacturers to produce more smaller cars - it's getting somewhat hard to buy a small car these days. I'd love to have a Japanese-style Kei car.
tiny EVs are going to be very popular in europe
EVs in Europe and the US are on the downward trend at the moment. I’m not entirely sure why, maybe they are still too expensive.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#20Why a tonnage limit for electric vehicles. It's obviously not entirely for GHG reasons. 2T is not all that heavy for EVs.
Why not? Isn't it immensely good thing to guide manufacturers to make lighter and smaller EVs? Less resources and less energy spend. After all the goal is to lower emissions so attacking on all areas should be the way to go. You want an EV, you must accept that it is smaller and lighter than other options.