Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
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Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
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Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#2This applies to people coming in from outside the city with SUVs.
It's probably still not fully financing the parking spots. Parking spots in cities are incredibly expensive and heavily subsidized.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#3It makes sense that road and parking pricing should be proportional to the size and impact of your car. Hopefully this will encourage manufacturers to produce more smaller cars - it's getting somewhat hard to buy a small car these days. I'd love to have a Japanese-style Kei car.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#4Why a tonnage limit for electric vehicles. It's obviously not entirely for GHG reasons. 2T is not all that heavy for EVs.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#5It makes sense that road and parking pricing should be proportional to the size and impact of your car. Hopefully this will encourage manufacturers to produce more smaller cars - it's getting somewhat hard to buy a small car these days. I'd love to have a Japanese-style Kei car.
Agreed -- the popularity of giant vehicles is basically a tragedy-of-the-commons situation, and probably regulation is the only way to fix it at this point.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#6Why a tonnage limit for electric vehicles. It's obviously not entirely for GHG reasons. 2T is not all that heavy for EVs.
What ?
It is. 2T means a 70kwh+ battery, an heresy on a planet with limited resources.
In Europe there is decent EVs with a 1.4-1.5T weight (Zoe/208/fiat)
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#7Why a tonnage limit for electric vehicles. It's obviously not entirely for GHG reasons. 2T is not all that heavy for EVs.
There's a tonnage limit for all vehicles. The only difference is +400 kg allowed if it's an EV.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#8The thing that's most interesting to me (and not mentioned in the article) is the crazy split between results depending on the arrondisement.[0]
Only one (the 6th, both rich but also rather low on parking) had results that were closer than 60/40 or 40/60.
[0] https://www.paris.fr/pages/plus-ou-moins-de-suv-les-parisien...
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#9Why a tonnage limit for electric vehicles. It's obviously not entirely for GHG reasons. 2T is not all that heavy for EVs.
Weight is the best way to tax vehicles.
It correlates to the amount of energy needed to move it, generally with the size of the vehicle, and highly with the particulate pollution from brakes and tyres (yes I'm aware of regenerative braking), as well as the amount of wear and tear on the roads and infrastructure, etc.
European cities were never built for large vehicles, we should be going towards smaller vehicles, a Fiat 500 EV would be well within the limits described (at only 980 kg) even without the extra weight allowed by EVs.
Even if one argues an EV is good for the environment... they could still be better for the environment by being smaller and weighing less as it would take less energy to move them.
But looking at things like the Mercedes EQS SUV (3,375 kg), I drove behind one of these at the weekend and it is huge, it was scary seeing it pass a cyclist on a narrow London street. Living in a dense capital city, I would love if London followed suit here.
Re: Parisians vote in favour of tripling parking costs for SUVs
#10There are small SUVs and they are great. They are popular for a reason: they have Utility, and you can use them slightly offroad.
OTOH an X3 or other luxury suv is basically stupid concept other than a display of wealth.