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Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by komali2 »

capableweb wrote: post #31
vocatan wrote: post #27

Just to add context - I do have backups, but they're spread across a myriad of different hard drives. I had used Amazon Photos to consolidate, and benefit from the facial recognition to be able to quickly locate pictures of family members quickly. I think that I'll give DigiKam another go, against the NAS loaded up. Thanks for the comments!

> I think that I'll give DigiKam another go, against the NAS loaded up. I'm also looking for something FOSS that can do basic face recognition + maybe even more, but last time I checked DigiKam's detection didn't work so well, or maybe I got spoiled by the detection in Google Photos. If you do give it a go, would be nice if you reported back on your experience :)

FOSS photo software with face recognition (note that some of this is off-premise face recognition, sometimes requiring an API key you get on your own)

https://damselfly.info

https://github.com/LibrePhotos/librephotos

https://photoview.github.io/

I may have missed some: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#pho...

Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by foobarbecue »

bayindirh wrote: post #32
vocatan wrote: post #27

Just to add context - I do have backups, but they're spread across a myriad of different hard drives. I had used Amazon Photos to consolidate, and benefit from the facial recognition to be able to quickly locate pictures of family members quickly. I think that I'll give DigiKam another go, against the NAS loaded up. Thanks for the comments!

Digikam is the bees knees in digital asset management. I manage my personal photo archive with that, and it punches way above its weight.

"knees bees" ... maybe I'm missing a joke, but I always said "bees knees" in this context as a play on "business"

Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by plagiarist »

harry8 wrote: post #20

1.5 Terabytes? (Assuming 6Mb/photo which is what I'm getting from an old nikon in raw format, dunno what everyone else is using - enlighten me please if necessary). Less than USD$50 for a 2TB disk. So buy 3, post one to a family member when its full. Double the price it for SSD? How much Amazon Photos storage do you get for $150? Ok for this guy, none, and I get connection refused from the link above so I got no deta…

Nikon RAWs are more like 50 Mb on their current cameras. Amazon offers unlimited photo storage with Prime.

I agree they should also have their own physical backup if the photos are important, even at ~10x the storage requirements you estimate, but I'd also say any complaints about Amazon losing their photos are valid.

Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by luckylion »

Nextgrid wrote: post #25
ho_schi wrote: post #14

Sounds unfortunate. Hopefully just an error or the service can replace it by a snapshot. No local backup on a drive or memory-card? Local backups shall be stored in different locations (depends on importance) not reachable by network. The cloud is the server of someone else and not a backup.

> Local backups shall be stored in different locations (depends on importance) not reachable by network. The cloud is the server of someone else and not a backup. That's common knowledge among tech people but blaming the victim is not the solution here. These services are marketed as safe, reliable, and not needing backups (in fact sometimes they make it difficult to take backups, even more so for a non-technical use…

Nobody is blaming the victim, they're saying that you should have a backup outside of your cloud provider.

I don't think people care enough about SLAs to pay a premium, until something happens to their data. But by then it's too late. The bold warning is cute, but have you seen cigarette packaging in Europe lately?

Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by wenyuanyu »

ppetty wrote: post #30

Does anyone know if iCloud (photos) storage is AWS S3? Curious if using both iCloud & Amazon Photos is a decent redundant backup plan in addition to a local copy. Or if I have iCloud & Prime, why not? (I also use Backblaze.)

I think Apple uses GCP as well. A photo is probably replicated twice across AWS and GCP by Apple, and AWS and GCP will then replicate it at least 5 times on their own side onto different racks or even AZ.

Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by capableweb »

komali2 wrote: post #51
capableweb wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think that I'll give DigiKam another go, against the NAS loaded up. I'm also looking for something FOSS that can do basic face recognition + maybe even more, but last time I checked DigiKam's detection didn't work so well, or maybe I got spoiled by the detection in Google Photos. If you do give it a go, would be nice if you reported back on your experience :)

FOSS photo software with face recognition (note that some of this is off-premise face recognition, sometimes requiring an API key you get on your own) https://damselfly.info https://github.com/LibrePhotos/librephotos https://photoview.github.io/ I may have missed some: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#pho...

What I found in my previous search is that either they're really good at managing large collections of photos, or they're really good at doing various AI/recognition, but none of what I've found have been good at both.

Hence my interest in DigiKam as their management features for large collections is second to none.

Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by worldsavior »

stepri wrote: post #16

This is just a reminder to take a backup of your cloud photos and store it locally (or other cloud provider). For example, with Google Takeout you can get a ZIP file with all your photos and videos from Google Photos.

That makes no sense. If you have backups locally, why store them on the cloud?

Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by bayindirh »

foobarbecue wrote: post #52
bayindirh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Digikam is the bees knees in digital asset management. I manage my personal photo archive with that, and it punches way above its weight.

"knees bees" ... maybe I'm missing a joke, but I always said "bees knees" in this context as a play on "business"

Fixed it, thanks. Sometimes my mind to finger interface changes packets on the way. I guess my nervous system uses UDP.
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