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Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India

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Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India

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Gut Reaction: In what ways is this different from woman nurses in American hospitals regularly working 12-hour (or longer) shifts?

We (the US) are in the top 10 when it comes to hours worked / overworked. Nurses are probably within the top 10 overworked professions within the US. High rates of burnout and stress.

> High rates of burnout and stress.

Not to mention an elevated rate of medical errors caused by tired and overworked hospital staff.

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Nobody is forcing anybody to work 12 hours a day?

Many employers effectively force exempt employees to work 12 hour days.

Then don't take a salary. Nobody is forcing you to work for a nice salary. If you want to be paid by the hour so that every hour is accounted for then go for it.

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Hospitals are a little different in that society has more of an incentive for longer shifts since shift changes end up killing people as the knowledge transfer isn't perfect from one shift to the next. That incentive makes it reasonable to treat healthcare workers a little differently from a legal perspective when compared with jobs with less societal benefit like making iPhones.

The shift change problem can be eliminated by having shifts overlap, hospitals just don't want to hire more staff to make that happen.

Exactly; this idea that we HAVE to overwork our medical professionals is just outdated, and especially since COVID, actively detrimental to our healthcare systems.

Hire more people, pay them more, and give them time off so they don't burn out or get sick themselves.

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My mom works 12 hour shifts as a CNC machinist in the United States. Is there some point to this article or is it just neat to know?

Yes, most modern countries have between 35 and 40 hour work weeks.

I don't believe that "most modern countries" don't make exceptions for work that requires it or critical fields. In fact, those of us who've worked non-traditional shifts usually get some perk out of it. When I worked 12 hour shifts I'd work 3-5 days in a row, then get the same amount of days off. To this day 5 days on 5 days off is the best schedule I've ever had. I also had a friend working in mines up north in Canada. He'd work on-shift for weeks at a time and then get 3 weeks off with a flight paid anywhere he wants in the world. Is Canada not a modern country?

Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India

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I read TFA and didn't notice an answer to my question below. Do men already have this permission? If so, I don't see why women shouldn't.

This article[1] has a bit more detail. It mentions: > The maximum work hours for workers in Karnataka industries will be 12 hours in a day but capped at the same 48-hour work week. This means workers can put in 4-day or 5-day work weeks while more flexibility is available for the management of daily production lines. > Finally, women will now be allowed to work night shifts – from 7pm to 6am. [1] https://www.india-br…

Thank you. This is the type of info I was expecting in TFA.
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