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Re: I/O 2022

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Multiple mentions of "skin tone" and AI. Did they really mess up skin tone recognition that bad that they needed three different solutions to it? (I feel like I missed some major fuckup on their end) https://blog.google/products/assistant/assistant-io-2022/ https://blog.google/products/search/monk-skin-tone-scale/ https://blog.google/technology/research/ai-monk-scale-skin-t...

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Re: I/O 2022

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One question I did have on the monk skin tone scale. They note that tone (normally a color measurement) is actually subjective (not objective) and so participants in studies should be asked to self identify their own skin tone and not let the computer classify images based on the scale. To the degree self identification is materially different than a technical measure of skin tone, how does that work in a model (ie, someone who is white self identifying as having a black skin tone). Secondarily, are these tones intended to map in any way to any traditional measures of ethnicity / race / national origin?

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I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

I think Apple, Samsung and Google should give up on this whole iPhone 13 and Pixel 6 naming and numbering scheme and stop pretending like it is going to be an exciting brand new product every single year. They should name them more like cars where you can always expect there to be the latest revision each year, but you never expect it to be something completely new that you need to upgrade to. We need the iPhone (202…

>You would just say you have "an iPhone"

They tried this with the iPad 3 IIRC. Was just "The New iPad" but they then reverted back the next year.

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I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

I think Apple, Samsung and Google should give up on this whole iPhone 13 and Pixel 6 naming and numbering scheme and stop pretending like it is going to be an exciting brand new product every single year. They should name them more like cars where you can always expect there to be the latest revision each year, but you never expect it to be something completely new that you need to upgrade to. We need the iPhone (202…

I work at Google and I don't always know which phone is which.

It's a phone. It does phone things.

Re: I/O 2022

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I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

I think Apple, Samsung and Google should give up on this whole iPhone 13 and Pixel 6 naming and numbering scheme and stop pretending like it is going to be an exciting brand new product every single year. They should name them more like cars where you can always expect there to be the latest revision each year, but you never expect it to be something completely new that you need to upgrade to. We need the iPhone (202…

Yea cars have this notion of model years. Everyone knows nothing really changes between model years except the trim. It's the vehicle generation you care about. I think the focus should be on holding press conferences when you genuinely have something new to show off otherwise it's just fluff.

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Google is working on some interesting stuff but their live events aren’t doing them any favors. There’s no hype leading up to them and the events themselves are dull as hell. Google currently has only 40k people watching the live event. Apple WWDC events attract 10X as many concurrent viewers.

> Apple WWDC events attract 10X as many concurrent viewers

Apple does the best job of anyone in the industry (imho) of building awareness and excitement over their events, developer or otherwise, but I think it is important to note that the WWDC keynotes (not the State of the Union), are also treated as proper consumer-facing product events, not just a developer keynote. As such, the audience is going to be much larger.

Back in the day, when Larry and Sergey were running things day to day, I/O definitely had more of that energy (they year Sergey jumped out of the plane and then walked on stage was bananas) and could pull Apple-like numbers, but that’s not what I/O is anymore.

40k concurrent for virtual conference that could be a series of blog posts and pre-recorded talks is actually pretty strong, IMHO.

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Pixel 6a dropped the headphone jack. Great. Gotta find another brand now.

It's been kind of funny to see folks criticize apple, then when their product cycle catches up copy them :) This has been like clockwork for a number of companies, starting with the move from keyboards to glass etc.

For me the lighting jack on the iphones actually has fantastic latency. Does anyone know how that works? Much better than USB-C (ie, you can use as a monitor for a multi-track recoding very comfortably)

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Multiple mentions of "skin tone" and AI. Did they really mess up skin tone recognition that bad that they needed three different solutions to it? (I feel like I missed some major fuckup on their end) https://blog.google/products/assistant/assistant-io-2022/ https://blog.google/products/search/monk-skin-tone-scale/ https://blog.google/technology/research/ai-monk-scale-skin-t...

So much hypocrisy going on. If fighting racism was the goal Unicode should not have added skin colored emojis. This is the dumbest move ever.
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