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I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by tootie »

abalone wrote: post #3

> A poster in an agency describes job qualification for Foxconn workers: age between 16 and 40, ninth-grade diploma, no Tibetan and Uygur ethnicities. Many damning things in the report but this straight up racism demands a firm response from Apple.

This is normal in a lot of places. Even much of first-world Asia allows for racial discrimination.

Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by tootie »

throwas1984 wrote: post #45
nickpeterson wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll bite, if racism is so accepted in other places doesn't that just make them all wrong? Or are you contending that racism has value?

I personally think that racism is very wrong and needs to be left in the past. It has no value in current world. But me, an European, saying to Chinese how they must live and behave - this is just neo colonialism. They should figure this out on their own.

Imposing our views is colonialism. Encouraging justice through soft power is laudable.

Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by golemiprague »

amelius wrote: post #28
Retric wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Average salaries can be very deceptive especially in developing nations. The real question is what someone with minimal skills or education can make in the area.

Or median salary instead of average salary.

and cost of living and what is the same relationship between average and factory work wages in the west. So yes, a clickbait

Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by jjtheblunt »

MegaButts wrote: post #33
jjtheblunt wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Entirely wrong : that's not Apple doing that, and, having spent years as an engineer at Apple, it's a huge priority to be ethical and good. i'm serious. Why not move elsewhere? The only factories able to produce the required volumes are, by virtue of great planning by China, there, and perform work on a contract basis for many companies, Apple included, Dell, and so on.

I realize it's a complicated subject, but if ethics was as high a priority as you were saying why wouldn't they simply move those jobs somewhere else with lower margins? EDIT: Since you edited your comment instead of responding to mine, yes China is the only country that can currently support Apple's manufacturing needs. But if Apple actually felt it was unethical to work with China for whatever reason they could beg…

Not sure why, but it wouldn't let me reply to your post earlier. (?). Now it does. Apple has been building Mac Pros in a factory in Texas; i'm not aware what is produced where though for a couple years.

Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by pg_is_a_butt »

guardiangod wrote: post #26
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #11

The only surprise here is that this unflattering portrayal was published in SCMP. They are accused of becoming another mouthpiece for the CCP, but this indicates there may still be some editorial latitude.

Foxconn is a Taiwanese company.

Taiwan is a Chinese country

Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by MegaButts »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #54
MegaButts wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I realize it's a complicated subject, but if ethics was as high a priority as you were saying why wouldn't they simply move those jobs somewhere else with lower margins? EDIT: Since you edited your comment instead of responding to mine, yes China is the only country that can currently support Apple's manufacturing needs. But if Apple actually felt it was unethical to work with China for whatever reason they could beg…

Not sure why, but it wouldn't let me reply to your post earlier. (?). Now it does. Apple has been building Mac Pros in a factory in Texas; i'm not aware what is produced where though for a couple years.

All right, rather than discuss Apple potentially moving manufacturing operations overseas, let me ask another question. What are some concrete examples of Apple putting a lot of value in ethics?

Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by vidoc »

guardiangod wrote: post #26
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #11

The only surprise here is that this unflattering portrayal was published in SCMP. They are accused of becoming another mouthpiece for the CCP, but this indicates there may still be some editorial latitude.

Foxconn is a Taiwanese company.

would you mind elaborating a bit por favor?

Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by lgregg »

vidoc wrote: post #58
guardiangod wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Foxconn is a Taiwanese company.

would you mind elaborating a bit por favor?

China and Taiwan don't have a great relationship. China claims Taiwan but Taiwan claims to be independent. There is a shadow affirmation by most world powers about Taiwan's independence. (i.e. the US hasn't affirmed their state but sells them guns)

Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by vidoc »

throwas1984 wrote: post #45
nickpeterson wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll bite, if racism is so accepted in other places doesn't that just make them all wrong? Or are you contending that racism has value?

I personally think that racism is very wrong and needs to be left in the past. It has no value in current world. But me, an European, saying to Chinese how they must live and behave - this is just neo colonialism. They should figure this out on their own.

> I personally think that racism is very wrong

The production of intelligence in this thread :)

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