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The difficulty I Found was when there were 5 in short order - they start to notice your absenteeism.
By this point, do you really care?
Ask HN: Why is it easier to get a raise with a new job?
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Re: Ask HN: Why is it easier to get a raise with a new job?
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How do you keep the interviews on the DL? The few times I've moved positions it's been a nightmare trying to keep my current boss from figuring it out.
why keep it secret make it known and maybe they just give you that raise
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I was able to average 18% raises for over a decade by switching jobs nearly every year. Hmm. For those curious, assuming I still understand how to do basic math like this and a few relatively low starting salaries for year one: 40k*(1.18^10) = 209k 60k*(1.18^10) = 314k 80k*(1.18^10) = 418k Are you one of these software engineers I hear about making 400k? I suppose I would find 150k-200k as more believable since you…
As another data-point: My day-rates as a long-term contractor which have some decent year-on-year increases from switching clients 2012 £200 (first time programming for money) 2013 £300 (new client) 2014 £425 (new client) 2015 - took a year off - 2016 £500 (new client) 2017 £650 (same client) 2018 £800 (new client)
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I had the exact same situation. When I left they said how much do we have to pay to get you to stay. I literally told them that there is no amount I don't want to work for a company that won't pay me what they think I'm worth. The next job I took I got a 25% pay increase, and the job after that I got another 30% pay increase. At my current company I've gotten a bigger raise every year than I ever would have asked for…
Your 2nd company didn't pay you what you are worth so clearly you so choose to work for companies like that.
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How often can you do this without it being a problem? I'm trying to make it past a year at current job, it definitely requires discipline to see it through. I don't want to be a job hopper but there are always shiny new opportunities.
When the economy is good, less than 1 year at a job seems excessive hopping. When the economy is worse and employers can choose, even 3 years look like "job hopping individual, will jump ship as soon as economy turns around and he can get $1 more somewhere else". Just decide if you optimize for comfort or money, and make sure you have a few months buffer for the bad times.
Re: Ask HN: Why is it easier to get a raise with a new job?
#56I've seen it time and time again. An employee wants a 10% raise but management says no and the employee quits. Then after a long search a new hire comes in at 10% more. Why not just give the existing employee that 10%? I think the reason is that big raises are not sustainable over time. If you keep giving your employees 10% raises every year, eventually you can't afford it. So you keep raises to 2-3% as long as possi…
> I was able to average 18% raises for over a decade by switching jobs nearly every year. Hmm. For those curious, assuming I still understand how to do basic math like this and a few relatively low starting salaries for year one: 40k*(1.18^10) = 209k 60k*(1.18^10) = 314k 80k*(1.18^10) = 418k Are you one of these software engineers I hear about making 400k? I suppose I would find 150k-200k as more believable since you…
Re: Ask HN: Why is it easier to get a raise with a new job?
#57I've seen it time and time again. An employee wants a 10% raise but management says no and the employee quits. Then after a long search a new hire comes in at 10% more. Why not just give the existing employee that 10%? I think the reason is that big raises are not sustainable over time. If you keep giving your employees 10% raises every year, eventually you can't afford it. So you keep raises to 2-3% as long as possi…
> I was able to average 18% raises for over a decade by switching jobs nearly every year. Hmm. For those curious, assuming I still understand how to do basic math like this and a few relatively low starting salaries for year one: 40k*(1.18^10) = 209k 60k*(1.18^10) = 314k 80k*(1.18^10) = 418k Are you one of these software engineers I hear about making 400k? I suppose I would find 150k-200k as more believable since you…
Re: Ask HN: Why is it easier to get a raise with a new job?
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
As another data-point: My day-rates as a long-term contractor which have some decent year-on-year increases from switching clients 2012 £200 (first time programming for money) 2013 £300 (new client) 2014 £425 (new client) 2015 - took a year off - 2016 £500 (new client) 2017 £650 (same client) 2018 £800 (new client)
Do you do contracting for backend or frontend?
Re: Ask HN: Why is it easier to get a raise with a new job?
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
why keep it secret make it known and maybe they just give you that raise
Then you're a flight risk. Laying that out like that let's them know you've got one foot out the door and the only thing keeping you there is bribery.