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Counter point -- Tipping is a way to insure excellent service on return visits to service oriented establishments.
Only if you see the exact same wait staff, places with high turnover make past tipping meaningless.
> as long as they pay those workers at least the minimum wage Do US employeers not have to pay workers the minimum wage?
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Counter point -- Tipping is a way to insure excellent service on return visits to service oriented establishments.
I seem to receive worse service in the US than in almost any other country I've been to. Other countries: you get the waiter's attention when you want to order something. Normally, it goes smoothly and they leave you alone. US: the waiter comes over every five minutes to check on you, annoying you and interrupting conversations. They pretend to be nice and overly friendly, and often flirt with you for money. Alternat…
Edit: This is a more general comment that addresses the conceit that the tipping system is merely a way for restaurant owners to pocket more money for themselves. This idea is simply ludicrous, given the staggeringly-thin margins in the business. I have no words to describe my disdain for the kneejerk reaction to attack job-creators at every turn.
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Depends on the state. In California, they have to be paid at least minimum wage regardless.
By Federal Law they have to be paid minimum wage. However, any waiter who can't clear more than minimum wage is doing it wrong.
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Pure guess but probably to allow for proper taxing of tips. Cash tips are notoriously underreported. I’ve never met any who receives them who claims the full value as income. Most will claim some min to meet a “normal” amount for a work day and pocket the rest. A law like this would shift that to be income received by the management which presumably they’d have to properly account for. Even if they give it all back i…
So you like to facilitate tax evasion? So that tax that's not being paid gets paid by some other schmuck -- like the cooks or the busboys that don't generally work from tips?
I also go out of my way to directly tip bus boys. Again for all the same reasons as above.
The only cooks I’ve tipped are those with direct interaction with me as a customer. So omelette station, street vendor, or mom and pop diner with one of them operating the kitchen. It’s not that I don’t think other cooks deserve tips, it’s just not feasible to tip them and I assume if they’re in a position not to receive them then their wages should reflect that.
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Counter point -- Tipping is a way to insure excellent service on return visits to service oriented establishments.
As a counter counter point, there are places which don't take tips, and they offer some of the best customer service in the world. Japan is a good example. In the food service industry, establishments will usually put their own service charge which they think is reasonable onto the bill (usually a small amount). They don't expect (many will refuse to take) further tips because they price the cost to serve into it.
Japan's entire service industry always leaves me pleased.
I hate tipping culture. When I was young and a waitress in college, I noticed horrible racism from waiters who treated minorities badly due to tipping stereotypes. Please just get rid of it for living wages.
Have you been in countries without tipping culture? Almost all of them have much worse service quality.
I suspect quality of service has a lot more to do with cultural factors unrelated to tipping.
I hate tipping culture. When I was young and a waitress in college, I noticed horrible racism from waiters who treated minorities badly due to tipping stereotypes. Please just get rid of it for living wages.
Have you been in countries without tipping culture? Almost all of them have much worse service quality.
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Depends on the state. In California, they have to be paid at least minimum wage regardless.
By Federal Law they have to be paid minimum wage. However, any waiter who can't clear more than minimum wage is doing it wrong.
In California, and Oregon, apparently, they are paid minimum wage from the start, and receive their tips on top of that, instead of being paid some "tipped alternative minimum wage" and then hoping that my employer is benevolent enough to follow the law and make up the difference.