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Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by __pache__ »

mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #488
__pache__ wrote: post #480

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For all intents and purposes you likely have more free time than the CEO. No one sane wants the responsibility: that's why it's so valuable. It's not evil. Glad you're counting you're blessings, now you can stop worrying about CEOs!

I know some retired CEOs, and they are not very busy.

Oh, I don't. Definitely don't envy their lives, after working with them.

They all keep working from the few I know, it's a certain kind of person. Almost a curse. Even with hundreds of millions. One is doing django alongside me almost 12hr/day... lol...

I know some retired policemen/public workers and they're doing handsomely. Went hunting one time and this guy was decked out, asked him "what do you do?!" Turns out he's retired police...

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by nsett_ »

DSingularity wrote: post #220
andrewstuart wrote: post #67

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The only thing he has done is not destroy the Google cash firehose. The advertising cash firehose is perhaps the only thing that matters at Google. But, having been severely caned by ChatGPT and left flat footed on AI i think it’s reasonable to say even that firehose is now at risk.

It’s really funny to read this over and over from so many people. You are saying google can’t match and surpass chatGPT? You know, google the people who invented the model architecture used by ChatGPT… the people who wrote the first ML training frameworks and the subsequent most popular one… the ones who designed hardware accelerators to minimize training and inference… the people with enough excess compute to probab…

It's not about ability though, they can do all that and some more. It's about focus, they're so large, they might not focus and react and change quick enough like the smaller players with inferior technology might.

This pattern plays out all the time in the tech industry. You think google didn't know how to make a website like facebook? Of course, but they couldn't beat a much smaller weaker opponent even then. Google now is about 8 times larger than Google 2011 and much slower.

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by nsett_ »

rvnx wrote: post #48
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #26

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What's even the risk? If the CEO of Google gets fired, he just ends up as the CEO of another Fortune 500 company. If he can't even land that role, he can just go around pocketing $50k/event speaking fee. Of course, that's only if he doesn't want to degrade himself by taking on a VP-level role at another Fortune 500 company.

No need to find a new job, 4% interest @ 225M USD = 9M USD yearly.

He's already a billionaire I think. 225M is just the fresh grant's value.

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by DSingularity »

autonomousErwin wrote: post #257
DSingularity wrote: post #220

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It’s really funny to read this over and over from so many people. You are saying google can’t match and surpass chatGPT? You know, google the people who invented the model architecture used by ChatGPT… the people who wrote the first ML training frameworks and the subsequent most popular one… the ones who designed hardware accelerators to minimize training and inference… the people with enough excess compute to probab…

I've heard this countless times as well and I wonder if the root cause comes from Google's inability to turn its research into practical applications. Case in point, 2017 Google Brain released the "Attention Is All You Need" paper however haven't done anything proactively to deliver it to mass users like OpenAI have done (among others) - perhaps this is the kick that Google needs to remind them that research alone is…

TBH no I don’t think that’s the case. I think they are actually approaching this space with care. Whether it’s social media, search, or ChatGPT there is an obvious human-race scale impact that I believe google recognizes that the “disrupters” disregard.

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by polygamous_bat »

chaostheory wrote: post #484
polygamous_bat wrote: post #442

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> You anti-work guys are again showing your ignorance. Do you have an actual argument, or do you just plan on name-calling until people shut up and fall in line? > A large chunk of techie compensation is in stock. Oh ok, I guess they can fire Sundar Pichai/Mark Zuckerberg when he underperforms, then? What? They don't own enough stocks to do that? There you go. That's your problem.

> Do you have an actual argument, or do you just plan on name-calling until people shut up and fall in line? It’s literally the 2nd sentence. An ignorant person is someone who is lacking in knowledge. It’s pretty accurate in this case > Oh ok, I guess they can fire Sundar Pichai/Mark Zuckerberg when he underperforms, then? What? They don't own enough stocks to do that? What are you even trying to say?

> What are you even trying to say?

Shares generally give you two benefits, one is a share of the up/downsides, and another is a right of governance in the company. The way employee share distributions are done right now means employees get a tiny fraction of the first and none of the second, even though they are a large stakeholder in the company's future.

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by raverbashing »

Fricken wrote: post #282
prepend wrote: post #267

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> Sundar was the right person for this role. Was he? What is the evidence that he succeeded? Or even had more positive influence than random decisions? Does google have consensus over what it’s doing? Or is Sundar specifically a “safe,” milquetoast CEO chosen to not show up previous CEOs. I don’t know Sundar, but it seems he was picked because google leadership assumed supremacy and thought that they just needed a st…

Sundar was chosen following a series of failures by megalomaniacal executives Larry had appointed/approved to head various departments, including Andy Rubin, Tony Fadell, and Anthony Levandwoski. Sundar was a move in the opposite direction.

Ugh

Overly opinionated people like that could thrive under Jobs, who was the biggest opinion setter, which made them fight for the most important things while getting a pushback on the most controversial areas and not waste time with minor stuff

Take that and they start going crazy (yes I'm talking about Johnny Ive)

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by cmonnow »

HyperSane wrote: post #402
1024core wrote: post #376

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Investors are too stupid to see what's going on. Have you seen the ad load (the amount of realestate used by ads) in a search results page? It has gone through the roof. It used to be a typical Google search ad was: title, 2 lines of text at most, and a URL. Now you have 10 or more lines in the top ad. Of course as you use more space for ads, revenue will go up. Even an idiot can see that. It's no magic. But yet the…

I don't see adds because the web is torture without adblock.

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Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by cmonnow »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #229
lordnacho wrote: post #105

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Guys like that will just go and manage their money when they leave. Investments in various things, no real need to do much.

Heck, at Sundar Pichai’s compensation, you can blow through $1M a month, never invest a dime, and still live out the rest of your life.

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Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by justinclift »

quesera wrote: post #487
justinclift wrote: post #336

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Because it's a term familiar to some, and not to others. What were you thinking the answer would be?

The better question is why did you use "eg" when you meant "i.e."? :)

Meh, no-one gives a shit. ;)
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